It probably makes more sense if you refer back to the language of that quote:
Emphasis added just to highlight something, no intent to "yell" or anything.
You mentioned need. I led with "Needed for what though?" I went on to give examples, you've gone on to explain your views on them. Seems like a reasonable enough discussion to me.
I've looked at (and cited) various reviews of statistics, I haven't found the number to be particularly well documented and follow ups seem to call the reports into question. See:
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/f...nse-gun-use-2/
Nobody is asking me to carry. No, but when self defense comes up, there are those who get quite aggressive about promoting guns for self defense.
Where I get uneasy about the guy buying a cup of coffee in your example is that everybody is law abiding in some sense, until they break the law.
My self defense background does include basic familiarity with firearms, but it was largely armed and unarmed combat. It involved getting struck in the head a lot. At the time, nobody thought much about it -- you get up, shake it off, and go on if you're cleared to. Now, it seems that things may have been more dangerous than we thought. Among the problems, they find head injuries can lead to an increase in violent behavior. They're still studying this, hopefully it is another storm in a teacup. But if it isn't, I don't know if that guy had a bad day at work or with his wife and be predisposed to anger issues. I don't know how clear his judgment is, or how he will really react if he thinks he has a reason to pull his gun.
Even if everything goes perfectly, accidental discharges happen. I haven't really bothered to keep up on modern pistols, I was taught you don't keep a round in the chamber. Perhaps it is safer now, but I cringe when I see someone advocate keeping a round ready to fire as some here have (that was brought up in the self defense thread). As far as I know, that increases the odds of an accidental discharge if the guy knocks his firearm loose in the manner of the Cracker Barrel incident I mentioned.
Now, this is about the point that many will claim I'm advocating gun control. Let me clear that I'm not. I'd be more comfortable if CCW had to go through certification on the same schedule as police, but I'm not even advocating that. What I am doing, is asking people to double check the facts, and make an informed decision. You seem to be doing that, and it appears you are taking steps to keep things safe. All cool by me.
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supertony51 Nah, I don't have a problem with you either.