2 million sold, 1.7 million subscribed - EA's Q3 FY12 report

[Bugg]

OH MY!!
so many other ppl (more or less like me) !

I usually do not read official forums because they are too dramatic. But HBpap what you liked above is INSANE !!!

F F S

thank you for the info!

[Glorious Leader]

Except those retention percentages and that 1.7m number thrown out by the CEO is not included on the earnings statement handed over to SEC. What is handed over to the SEC is the piece(s) of paper showing the company lost $340million in Q3. Q&A sessions are hype and they always are for any company...but just in case you want to see what companies actually DO have to disclose; here you go.



Slobbering QQing morons......right. Well, I guess these people don't qualify as that since they are just looking for others to play the game with.

Yet I still had a que to get on Fatman. Several servers did. Having said that I'm sure BW will do the RATIONAL thing and migrate or merge servers. Instead of ya know.. that band aid fix the other company did...

[Rooflesstoofless]

Yet I still had a que to get on Fatman. Several servers did. Having said that I'm sure BW will do the RATIONAL thing and migrate or merge servers. Instead of ya know.. that band aid fix the other company did...

...and when I come back I am re-rolling to a server that has more than 6 people per planet and 50 people in fleet during peak hours. Just as I'm sure those bothering to already re-roll are coming to Fatman, Swiftsure, Harbinger, and the few other highly populated servers.

Also, what company are you talking about and what bandaid fix? Do you mean Rift or WoW or....??? Sorry for the ignorance, but me currently not playing TOR means me currently being MMO-less.

[Bugg]

I for one am very disappointed. I was really looking forward to being lv 50 so I can PvP with the big boys, to do FPs and raids. But when I got there, I see that the pvp is Crap, we have 30-40 mins queues and the outcome is:
- the match ends prematurely because of lack of players => 5-6 commendations
- the opposing team has a majority of over-geared ppl that are impossible to kill, so we must take it until the end... => 20-30 commendations

The pve is similar, after 8-9PM when one should expect others will come to play, I can Barely find a group for the daily Hard Black Talon. And I`m healer!

I will not yet quit ! there is still hope...

[Glorious Leader]

...and when I come back I am re-rolling to a server that has more than 6 people per planet and 50 people in fleet during peak hours. Just as I'm sure those bothering to already re-roll are coming to Fatman, Swiftsure, Harbinger, and the few other highly populated servers.

Also, what company are you talking about and what bandaid fix? Do you mean Rift or WoW or....??? Sorry for the ignorance, but me currently not playing TOR means me currently being MMO-less.

Cross server looking for dungeon is a band aid fix for low server populations. This should make for a good discussion. Also its more than just a few. Aside from the 4 you mentioned their were at least 5 more listed as very heavy tonight. Next time ill take screen shot.

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feels like my server (EU) is dead. Only 1 Imp guild that "raids" (I`m in it and it`s full of E-Thugs and random kids).
0% chance to win on Ilum / WZs versus the Reps.
The economy is also shit. Nothing really you can buy at lv 50 from GTN. Somethig usefull like implants, mods, etc.
Very few ppl shouting LFG etc for hard FPs.
And so on.

Maybe this happens on other servers also, and that`s why ppl leave..

i think you must be on one of the few servers that has more reps than imp

[Rooflesstoofless]

Cross server looking for dungeon is a band aid fix for low server populations. This should make for a good discussion. Also its more than just a few. Aside from the 4 you mentioned their were at least 5 more listed as very heavy tonight. Next time ill take screen shot.

I'd say anything that can achieve 'very heavy' or better (full, +queue) on a regular basis probably has decent populations. Anything listed as 'standard'...good luck with that.

[Vegemeat]

Cross server looking for dungeon is a band aid fix for low server populations. This should make for a good discussion. Also its more than just a few. Aside from the 4 you mentioned their were at least 5 more listed as very heavy tonight. Next time ill take screen shot.

The band aid fixes blizzard uses are free migration from low pop servers to medium-high. The hyperbole isn't needed to try and prove a point that isn't there.

[Glorious Leader]

The band aid fixes blizzard uses are free migration from low pop servers to medium-high. The hyperbole isn't needed to try and prove a point that isn't there.

No hyperbole needed. The cross server dungeon finder was implemented to address the issue that people couldn't get groups for dungeons. This was for a number of reasons including LOW SERVER POPULATIONS. The fix for that problem should be server consolidation. No such fix was forthcoming.

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I'd say anything that can achieve 'very heavy' or better (full, +queue) on a regular basis probably has decent populations. Anything listed as 'standard'...good luck with that.

I'm also on Naddist Rebels which is usually standard. I manage to get alot of stuff done.

[A Challenger!]

Slobbering QQing morons......right. Well, I guess these people don't qualify as that since they are just looking for others to play the game with.

I am failing to realize how this is any different than the situation on the WoW forums, or maybe even Rift right now.

I really do not understand your point in the least. Your vendetta should not be against SWTOR, but how MMO's in general are poor quality, and still sucking in money. Or maybe even how the communities are nothing but complaining masses, or sycophantic droves, that rarely ever offer true criticism anymore.

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The band aid fixes blizzard uses are free migration from low pop servers to medium-high. The hyperbole isn't needed to try and prove a point that isn't there.

Last I checked, there were only free migration from HIGH server pop to LOW server pop, not the other way around.
That would be nice if they did that anyway.

Though I still think we should get free transfers with a cooldown in MMOs.
I didn't really like paying for 3 characters transfers in WoW just because I made the mistake to roll on a pvp server back in Vanilla (was new to MMOs at that time, so didn't really understand what world pvp griefing was about)

[Azuri]

Cross server looking for dungeon is a band aid fix for low server populations. This should make for a good discussion. Also its more than just a few. Aside from the 4 you mentioned their were at least 5 more listed as very heavy tonight. Next time ill take screen shot.

I think your line of thinking is flawed, LFG is not a band aid fix. The natural progression of game over time means less and less people have a need or desire to do instances/flash points and the pool of players wanting to do them on single server will dry up or diminish. Over time it will require more and more endless spamming of a chat channel to fill your group and when you finally do fill your party better hope to hell no one drops out or you're back at square one and most likely will end up with a group that will disband. Obviously guild groups don't suffer this fate as much but outright PUGs which is a huge chunk of players require this tool to PVE.

A LFG at launch is not as critical but quote me or bookmark this as time goes on TOR will HAVE to put one in or more players will cancel their subs and continue a decline of the available pool of players to pick from. Like it or not it's just a basic fundamental aspect of an MMO. FYI even a server/realm only LFG will not suffice it changes nothing to the pool of players who want to run flashpoints on your server. Your arguments of community going to the crappers will fall on deaf ears when it actually comes to sub retention.

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i think they are lying about the subs, my whole guild has quit 34 ppl, all the servers i see that was full with wait times are now standard/light only a few full, almost every1 i know has quit and many more ppl have unsubbed, i dunno how pve side is but the pvp side is a complete joke so many things broken , worst customer service i have ever seen on any mmo and devs unable to fix anything it seems only have to look on the swtor forums to see whats happning.

[Vegemeat]

Last I checked, there were only free migration from HIGH server pop to LOW server pop, not the other way around.
That would be nice if they did that anyway.

Though I still think we should get free transfers with a cooldown in MMOs.
I didn't really like paying for 3 characters transfers in WoW just because I made the mistake to roll on a pvp server back in Vanilla (was new to MMOs at that time, so didn't really understand what world pvp griefing was about)

The last server migration was from a low pop to a medium, unfortunately I do not remember the name of the server as I don't play on low pop realms to begin with.

[Rife]

I loved Hammerknell in Rift. That was the hardest instance I've done since..... Vash and Kael pre nerfs. I'm really hoping TOR raiding on nightmare will become something truly difficult.

Update:
It is difficult. It's actually impossible on some encounters.
New mechanic seems to be bugs! lolol

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. In other words, if I had only played on server like Swiftsure I'd be more than willing to swallow the idea of 1.7million players as of 2/1/2012.

I'd totally believe 1.7million as of 12/31...but 1.7m after the 20th of January? Not a chance.

I have to agree with this one.

If anyone came out and said that the overall playing population has remained fairly constant or increased in the past fortnight/month I'd question their intelligence.

I'd even go so far as to re-classify SWTOR to an MORPG. It just doesn't feel like there are many people playing at the moment. This might have a lot to do with the 'theme-park' style of SWTOR though.

I'm considering rolling on Swiftsure just to see if it's as populated as people make it out to be. WotS is at HEAVY during peak times but still feels half empty.