Lucid Dreaming and OBE(Outer body experience)

[Scisors]

So I saw this post on 9gag.com, pretty funny site and it got me wondering about these two things. When I see peoples stories of Lucid Dreaming it's all scary things and I don't want to try it. Although, it's just one of those things that I am curious about trying. Out of body experiences seem cool, but I saw Incidious so I'm not sure if I want to try to achieve that haha. Here's the post, got me wondering, maybe it will do the same for you guys. Also if any1 had an experience with any of these please share!

http://9gag.com/gag/3402009

[Troodi]

Very simply it is your spiritual body taking a walk away from your physical body. When you die is when the connection is severed. But while you are alive there is a very strong connection which makes this separation difficult to do while awake.

If you follow the instructions, lie on your back, arms at your side, very relaxed with little contact between your appendages to your body, you might get to the state where you can "float" away from your body.

It helps to do a beginning routine of tensing every muscle throughout the body, hold the tightness for a long count, then slowly relaxing starting from the feet and working up the body to the face. Do this three times. Try to get all the muscles to be completely relaxed.

Because the body has an survival instinct, you'll find it very scary when the sensation of separation hits. But it's also very soothing because you'll enter the ethereal realm. I don't recommend taking the final step away because it can be risky for your physical body.

Even if you don't want to do the actual Out of Body experience, this also is an amazing technique to get a really good night's sleep. After a session of this "floating,"you'll wake up very refreshed.

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[Pert]

I've only ever had one lucid dream. It was unintentional.

My memory of it has faded, but essentially I dreamt that my car wouldn't start. I asked a friend if he knew why, and he just stared at me. I asked twice more, and then somehow I had the realization that I was dreaming. At that moment my entire field of vision stretched/warped for a second before snapping back.

I spent the remainder of the dream flying.

[LegendaryDude]

I have "learnt" to have lucid dreams. Basically, in the morning when i wake up, just long enough to realize that i am awake, i turn around and try to sleep again. If it works i have a lucid dream where i can control everything. I don't do it very often because i had some very fucked up and shocking moments because of it

[Penatar]

"out of body experiences" aren't real. A group of scientists took people who claimed they could do it and had a sheet above their bod with a number on it. They told the person to guess the number, and no one got it right.

It's all in our heads. Lucid dreams are fun; I had one where a large black figure was pushing down on my chest and yelled my name. I just told myself "i'm a rational person, this is obviously not real" and went back to sleep.

If you want a good book on it read Carl Sagan's A Demon Haunted World.

[Tychus]

Very simply it is your spiritual body taking a walk away from your physical body.

...headdesk.

Infracted

[Spectral]

...headdesk.

This board is not good for the health of my head, or my desk...

[Rec]

"out of body experiences" aren't real. A group of scientists took people who claimed they could do it and had a sheet above their bod with a number on it. They told the person to guess the number, and no one got it right.

I heard of a study where they placed pictures in hospital rooms in places where you would need to have an OBE to see them. In some cases, when people were considered "dead" (ie their heart stopped) they were able to be resuscitated, and some of them could recall an OBE, and were able to describe the picture.

I found an article describing it:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...periences.html

[Catta]

Dare i ask what the difference between an out of body experience and a dream?

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I heard of a study where they placed pictures in hospital rooms in places where you would need to have an OBE to see them. In some cases, when people were considered "dead" (ie their heart stopped) they were able to be resuscitated, and some of them could recall an OBE, and were able to describe the picture.

I found an article describing it:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...periences.html

actually that article describes how people have claimed it and that they will now research it but nothing saying anyone actually saw the pictures is mentioned..

[Rec]

Dare i ask what the difference between an out of body experience and a dream?

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actually that article describes how people have claimed it and that they will now research it but nothing saying anyone actually saw the pictures is mentioned..

I said I found an article describing the experiment, I don't have the actual study on hand unfortunately.

[Deleted]

I tried this last night, a so-called "WILD" (wake-initiated lucid dream), didn't succeed though =( Got to the sleep paralysis thingy, and freaked when I couldn't move/open my eyes and it felt like I was spinning around, could barely breathe etc. But I sure as hell will try it again!

[Catta]

I said I found an article describing the experiment, I don't have the actual study on hand unfortunately.

"In some cases, when people were considered "dead" (ie their heart stopped) they were able to be resuscitated, and some of them could recall an OBE, and were able to describe the picture"

You describe the experiment and then link to a description...?

[Rec]

"In some cases, when people were considered "dead" (ie their heart stopped) they were able to be resuscitated, and some of them could recall an OBE, and were able to describe the picture"

You describe the experiment and then link to a description...?

Why not...?

[fizzbob]

proof for me that OBE is dreaming and nothing else is that people are 100% affected by their religious beliefs. christians will see the bright light and their family in heaven, guilty christians may see hell, but buddhists, muslims, etc all see something related to their idea of the afterlife. it's just dreaming.

sure there may be an unknown explanation, something we'll certainly figure out one day, maybe it's some type of mechanism that we've evolved to experience less or something, but just like the earth was never the center of the universe, OBE isn't your spirit outside your body. you are energy in a shell.

my grandmother tried this crap. she's also talked to jesus and tried to lose weight. she's basically a compulsive liar.

people are too quick to define everything, take it for what it is, a bunch of stories that aren't even valid enough to need an explanation. most are word of mouth. there are just as many people who have seen bigfoot.

[Deleted]

Is the sleep paralysis thing even real? Cause if it was, why are all my sheets, pillows and blanket on the floor each morning?:P

[Drofu]

Speaking of OBE, there is also Astral Projection.(No, not the israeli psychodelic trance group) The idea is you can seperate yourself from your body, as a sort of ghost/spirit.(There is also one where you can visit the Astral Plane, the 4th dimension but that is probably going into a drug induced off-topic) You can travel through walls, all around while your main body is lying still. Some drugs have been known to induce this, but for the most part people have claimed to use this to see what people are doing in another country or say predict future events. There have been many who have tried this and became semi-famous. Though they were never right. >.> A famous case was a guy by the name of Dr. Albert Taylor who wrote the book Soul Traveler: A Guide to Out-of-Body Experiences and the Wonders Beyond. The book talks about how he overcame his sleep paralysis and used it to Astral Project.

If anyone is interested, you can listen to an interview of his on Coast to Coast AM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc3FW...eature=related

12 parts, he starts on that video part 4

[fizzbob]

Is the sleep paralysis thing even real? Cause if it was, why are all my sheets, pillows and blanket on the floor each morning?:P

it's a form of hysteria. it's a mental thing, it's like when you know you need to jump but you can't. people like to throw cute names on things to make them seem more important and "impossible to overcome" when they can't overcome it

alcoholism
manic depressive
etc

recently there is a case of what doctors are calling mass hysteria in a school, this group of girls is getting "sick" and it appears debilitating, but 100% of every test they could come up with before the school's budget was literally gone showed that nothing was the problem. the tests on the kids by doctors showed nothing working improperly.

look at a soccer match. you think the hoodlums can't control themselves so that's why 10 people get trampled and killed? or you think people just like to let loose and act like idiots with (what they think) no consequence?

humans have always done this. religion came from us being unable to explain something and attributing it to a god.

[Deleted]

For the love of all that is unholy....
They TESTED OBE for f***s sake.
They put a card on the top of the operating lamp and when they came back and claimed to have witnessed an OBE they asked "What was written on that card?"

Up until today the score is still at 0

[Deleted]

it's a form of hysteria. it's a mental thing, it's like when you know you need to jump but you can't. people like to throw cute names on things to make them seem more important and "impossible to overcome" when they can't overcome it

alcoholism
manic depressive
etc

recently there is a case of what doctors are calling mass hysteria in a school, this group of girls is getting "sick" and it appears debilitating, but 100% of every test they could come up with before the school's budget was literally gone showed that nothing was the problem. the tests on the kids by doctors showed nothing working improperly.

look at a soccer match. you think the hoodlums can't control themselves so that's why 10 people get trampled and killed? or you think people just like to let loose and act like idiots with (what they think) no consequence?

humans have always done this. religion came from us being unable to explain something and attributing it to a god.

So not being paralyzed at night and tossing and kicking in sleep is a form of hysteria which is caused by belief in god?:O

Guess I learn something new every day..

[Chronius]

Has anyone besides me tried having a really high fever? like near fatal..... thats when it starts to get real "trippy"