This idiot is the reason Thunder Bluff stands

[Salandrin]

I was doing some quests in South Barrens, and then came across this guy named General Hawthorne, and his dialogue screams Horde favoritism because he is not doing what he should be, and needs to be removed. He claims he doesn't want to butcher innocents, despite the Horde butchering Alliance civilians daily.

What is up with this?

[tauchs]

an eye for an eye leaves the world blind.

[Bohumil]

mmm. i love the smell of alliance qq about horde favoritism in the morning. seriously, stop looking under every rock and behind every bush for something to qq about horde favoritism. because in all seriousness yes. Blizz favors the horde. there, now you know! and knowing is half the battle! so please stop qqing about it.

[Ghul]

yeah so americans who decide not to kill iraqi civilians means that god is favoring the iraqis based on your logic... how twisted can you be?

[Venziir]

I was doing some quests in South Barrens, and then came across this guy named General Hawthorne, and his dialogue screams Horde favoritism because he is not doing what he should be, and needs to be removed. He claims he doesn't want to butcher innocents, despite the Horde butchering Alliance civilians daily.

What is up with this?

And your post screams Alliance favoritism... Can we move on now?

[Urti]

He is intended to be a sympathetic character. He was opposed to the senseless slaughter of innocents, and so allowed the tauren to "escape". He didn't know however that the only place those tauren had to go was straight into the blades of angry quillboar tribes. He is meant to give the Alliance the chance to absolve themselves of a wholesale slaughter and try to maintain that "good guy" self-image they are so delusionally in love with.

[Deleted]

yeah so americans who decide not to kill iraqi civilians means that god is favoring the iraqis based on your logic... how twisted can you be?

I lol'd, then I cried.

[Flatspriest]

Nevermind read the OP wrong

[TheFuse]

Is the OP as stupid as I think he is, or am I just misunderstanding his crying?

Infracted

[babo7000]

yeah so americans who decide not to kill iraqi civilians means that god is favoring the iraqis based on your logic... how twisted can you be?

Ya, but if the iraqis (horde) somehow manage to repeatedly overcome and kill the much technologically and statistically superior americans (ally), while the americans do nothing but attempt to stop the war, then yes, I would say god is favouring the iraqis.

[Nekrow Stilborne]

I was doing some quests in South Barrens, and then came across this guy named General Hawthorne, and his dialogue screams Horde favoritism because he is not doing what he should be, and needs to be removed. He claims he doesn't want to butcher innocents, despite the Horde butchering Alliance civilians daily.

What is up with this?

(Some) Alliance Generals have self-control. Hawthorne is one of them, which makes him likable, respectable... and none too surprising when the Horde turns him into a tree ornament.

Horde have the fierce pride of being ferocious, misunderstood souls... who have nothing better to do than throw axes at whatever speaks Common.
Alliance have the honor of justice, rooting out villainy and standing in the wind with cape billowing... but purposely handicap themselves because "They're better than those filthy monsters kicking their asses."

[babo7000]

(Some) Alliance Generals have self-control. Hawthorne is one of them, which makes him likable, respectable... and none too surprising when the Horde turns him into a tree ornament.

Horde have the fierce pride of being ferocious, misunderstood souls... who have nothing better to do than throw axes at whatever speaks Common.
Alliance have the honor of justice, rooting out villainy and standing in the wind with cape billowing... but purposely handicap themselves because "They're better than those filthy monsters kicking their asses."

Pretty much how blizz sees both factions, especially the bolded part.

[mvaliz]

an eye for an eye leaves the world blind.

Not really... it just leaves everybody in the world with horrible depth-perception. :P

[Deathgoose]

I just did the Southern Barrens questline yesterday, starting from the far NW where you enter from Stonetalon. What I found most interesting is how that guy standing right next to the General is all like, "NO WAI! WE NEED TO KILLZ US SOME HORDE!!!" And then the General is ganked completely off screen for the Alliance, and is told of this at the next quest hub in little more than a footnote that, "Oh, yeah, btw, the General will be a little late getting here on account of being dead. Oopsie!".

[DetectiveJohnKimble]

I just did the Southern Barrens questline yesterday, starting from the far NW where you enter from Stonetalon. What I found most interesting is how that guy standing right next to the General is all like, "NO WAI! WE NEED TO KILLZ US SOME HORDE!!!" And then the General is ganked completely off screen for the Alliance, and is told of this at the next quest hub in little more than a footnote that, "Oh, yeah, btw, the General will be a little late getting here on account of being dead. Oopsie!".

I think you kill him as part of the Horde questline in the area.

[Ghul]

I just did the Southern Barrens questline yesterday, starting from the far NW where you enter from Stonetalon. What I found most interesting is how that guy standing right next to the General is all like, "NO WAI! WE NEED TO KILLZ US SOME HORDE!!!" And then the General is ganked completely off screen for the Alliance, and is told of this at the next quest hub in little more than a footnote that, "Oh, yeah, btw, the General will be a little late getting here on account of being dead. Oopsie!".

i loled, i definitely need to play the alliances questlines at some point too

---------- Post added 2012-04-30 at 07:53 PM ----------

I think you kill him as part of the Horde questline in the area.

thats kinda cool :O

[Deathgoose]

I think you kill him as part of the Horde questline in the area.

HORDE BIAS!!! SLAP IN DA FACE TO THE ALLIANCE!!!

(Yeah, I know the Horde kill him in their version of the quest chains. It's just the Alliance find out about it after moving to another hub, and it's this cavalier, "Shame about the general. Oh well, he'd want us to burn everything down, so let's get to it" response you get from the new quest giver. )

[Urti]

I think you kill him as part of the Horde questline in the area.

You do. The Horde only see the slaughter at Taurajo. They don't have any idea about the general's effort to spare the civilians. The Horde only know that a village full of civilians was slaughtered by his order. The fact that the looters appear to be his men doesn't help either.

Also OP, on the whole wanting Thunder Bluff to fall thing. Do you really wanna start your Horde extermination by killing the one peaceful group that keeps all the rest in check? The Tauren are our conscience as Horde, they're the LAST ones you should be attacking.

[Endus]

Seriously, there are no "good guys" in the Horde vs. Alliance war. Both factions have good, and bad sides. Neither is "better" or "worse" than the other. The Alliance are fascist monarchists, the Horde are a warmongering, well, horde. The Alliance is also often just and the leaders are often (but not always) noble, where the Horde are more egalitarian and (generally speaking) honorable.

And of course, there are expections to all those generalities. The point is, neither side are the "good guys". It's not "favoritism" to show both sides of both factions.

[StationaryHawk]

So what you're trying to say is, if someone is butchering innocents (which, btw, where is the Horde doing this, save the Forsaken?), then everyone has to butcher innocents?

That logic doesn't make much sense.