Life-Binders Handmaiden and Pureblood Firehawk in MoP drop rates?

[Deleted]

Little story first. I want to buy the mount from Deathwing HC off of my guild, you know, putting 50k in Guild Bank or giving ~5.5k to everyone for passing to me.

But I don't want to buy it if it remains a 100% drop rate in Mists of Pandaria. But i will definitely do it if it is to become a rare drop rate. What do people think?

[Eon Drache]

Blizzard gave us, what? A 2 month notice before they made the changes to Invincible and Mimiron's Head? I'd expect they will probably do the same this time.

[Vanisari]

Chances are, if you have to buy it now, if the rate stays at 100%, you will have to buy it then. It will most likely go the way of Invincible and Mimrons head though.

[Resentful]

It's simple within the end of woltk is when they announced the drop rates of mimihead and Invincible via the patch If I remember correctly so If that follows here then both of those mounts will be scheduled at 1% as well within the 5.0 patch

[mea]

If it appears on the black market, it should stay 100%.

[chazus]

Just keep in mind... When MoP goes live, people wont hit up Dragon Soul anymore... And when you do start getting retro raids going a year from now, all the kids who never did Heroic DS.. will wipe wipe wipe on DS.

[Dracodraco]

If it appears on the black market, it should stay 100%.

Why? Didn't they find the Ashes of Al'ar on the BM ?

[TheRickyB]

my bet is Same as othe rRaid mounts 1% drop~ =[

[fulkin]

if you can buy it for 50k just do it, we charge double that for it on its own (and double that again if you dont have the title already)

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And when you do start getting retro raids going a year from now, all the kids who never did Heroic DS.. will wipe wipe wipe on DS.

Doubt it.

Level 90 will negate most abilities in DS hc. Unlike LK, where the Valkyrs can still kill players if nobody bothers to dps them down. But DS doesn't have many such mechanics.

If it appears on the black market, it should stay 100%.

Why?

A 100% droprate in old content would defeat the purpose of using the Black Market AH as a gold sink for rich players.

I fully expect the droprate to be reduced, and I think the mount will appear on the Black Market AH. But if you can get it for 50k, that sounds like a good price.

[wariofan1]

Remove them, create challenge mode raids, add them there!

That's... not a bad idea at all actually. I can't help but feel that they'd feel horribly out of place as a reward in MoP though, unless you mean creating challenge mode versions of the respective raids they're earnt from.

As for on-topic; Go for it. What would you like the best, that you ended up without the mount and it was reduced to 1%, or get the mount, but it still stays at 100%? I'd say you should be happy as long as you have it if you really want it that much.

[mea]

Why? Didn't they find the Ashes of Al'ar on the BM ?

Simply because it'd be easy to get for a few people, including me, without bothering to even do what it was originally rewarded for. I'd rather farm it and hope for a bit of luck, instead of get it because i did something unrelated to the actual gameplay.

[Yodawinfrey]

I'm praying they drop the rate. On horde side, there's only us and another guild that have even farmed Heroic 7/7 - 8/8. No other horde guild has even killed H spine/H Ragnaros. I like my mounts and I think they should have their drop rate severely reduced. It's nice to ride around on something I know I earned. Ourselves and the other guild do sell each mount, but, that will only last for some time. I'd hate for MoP to hit, people level to 90 then go back and completely and utterly ignore all mechanics of a fight to get a pretty decent looking mount that at the time was semi difficult and satisfying to earn.

Should be just like Invincible/Mir's head and basically be a non existent drop unless the stars aligned. Not too worried about the BM AH because even if it pops up on there *once* in awhile, it's not like hundreds of people will be running around with it. I like feeling like a special snowflake on my pureblood/life binders in org! Honestly though, it just comes down to actually earning it. Either by doing the content and killing it or farming it... A LOT. But I definitely don't think it should be over geared and just killed within minutes.

[Maruka]

50k is nothing even if it doesnt go back down, just pay it and support your guild

[Marrel]

I am thinking about this with the H Rag mount (Pureblood Firehawk). I want to have it, especially if it goes to rare drop rate for MoP.
People like myself and the OP want to get mounts like this before they are announced that they are going to become rare drop rates, because guess what, as soon as Blizz announces they become rare drops demand will skyrocket and so will the price tags.

[Resentful]

I am thinking about this with the H Rag mount (Pureblood Firehawk). I want to have it, especially if it goes to rare drop rate for MoP.
People like myself and the OP want to get mounts like this before they are announced that they are going to become rare drop rates, because guess what, as soon as Blizz announces they become rare drops demand will skyrocket and so will the price tags.

Then by all means you best do it now because I'm 99% sure they will do it just like they did with woltk.

[Dracodraco]

Doubt it.

Level 90 will negate most abilities in DS hc. Unlike LK, where the Valkyrs can still kill players if nobody bothers to dps them down. But DS doesn't have many such mechanics.

Beg to differ. You need to do all encounters on heroic to get to Madness, and going through the encounters (considering how defile wipes most pugs on LK hc still):

Morchok - easy.
Yorsahj - Purple debuff (if not killed) will rape any pug.
Zon'ozz - Dispelling the magic debuff, not bouncing correctly. It may be outhealable in MOP to just let the ball hit the wall and Zon'ozz enrage, though.
Hagara - have to complete the lightning chains, have to avoid ice walls of death. Pug killer.
Ultraxion - 2/5 different people has to soak every hour of twilight, and people have to hit their fading light buttons. Pug killer.
Warmaster - granted they get the soaking down, not an issue.
Spine - need to dispell, but that's quite easy, so not a problem.
Madness - Only issue would be the dps switch onto the bloods in P4.

Still, quite a few encounters would give any non-dedicated pug issues, even with superior healing/hp/dps.

[Nuckels]

Beg to differ. You need to do all encounters on heroic to get to Madness, and going through the encounters (considering how defile wipes most pugs on LK hc still):

Morchok - easy.
Yorsahj - Purple debuff (if not killed) will rape any pug.
Zon'ozz - Dispelling the magic debuff, not bouncing correctly. It may be outhealable in MOP to just let the ball hit the wall and Zon'ozz enrage, though.
Hagara - have to complete the lightning chains, have to avoid ice walls of death. Pug killer.
Ultraxion - 2/5 different people has to soak every hour of twilight, and people have to hit their fading light buttons. Pug killer.
Warmaster - granted they get the soaking down, not an issue.
Spine - need to dispell, but that's quite easy, so not a problem.
Madness - Only issue would be the dps switch onto the bloods in P4.

Still, quite a few encounters would give any non-dedicated pug issues, even with superior healing/hp/dps.

Yor'sahj - Kill purple
Zonozz - Just have 1 ranged group 1 melee group and bounce till death (increased health values np, if its to much just get melee to spread and ignore adds)
Hagara - Kill boss before lightning, reset if lightning is first.
Ultraxion - Maybe that will wipe you but even that can be fixed by spooning people.
Warmaster - Lolbruteforce get all ranged to spread out.
Spine - Be easy.
Madness - Be easy if dps is high enough.

[Dracodraco]

Yor'sahj - Kill purple
Zonozz - Just have 1 ranged group 1 melee group and bounce till death (increased health values np, if its to much just get melee to spread and ignore adds)
Hagara - Kill boss before lightning, reset if lightning is first.
Ultraxion - Maybe that will wipe you but even that can be fixed by spooning people.
Warmaster - Lolbruteforce get all ranged to spread out.
Spine - Be easy.
Madness - Be easy if dps is high enough.

You think people will actually switch to yorsahj's purple ooze when it's not dropped down right in front of you :<? people still have issues with LK's valkyrs, and those usually pop up right in front of you rather than in the other end of the room.
And ice would still kill off a significant amount of people due to the slowing debuff (either A: Have people get rooted and die, or B: have people dispell it, slow the entire group and possibly die - no way you'll get people to run into the bubble with it. Or you could go for outhealing the 15% dmg, but as it'll scale with HP and healing is supposed to become "harder" than it is in DS, then who knows if that'll be viable).

[Foto]

People will still wipe to HC DS, just take a look at the abilities, for instance the ship must stay alive, purple glob, green glob = insane aoe even if we have 400k hp, ball bouncing, lightning chains, PUSH THE BUTTON, spose you could find 9 other not so retards but it won't as much as a faceroll for any pug as much as H rag or nef/chog/alakir, sinestra will probably still be difficult tho. But ds won't be easy with your average joe pug just like Heroic icc is still challenging with people who don't know the mechanics well