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    Most overrated class in your opinion?

    Which class was super hyped, and became a let down for you?

    For me it's the Jedi Sage/Sith Sorcerer, no contest. I'd heard so many people say they prefer the Sage to the Shadow/Assassin and I'm just completely baffled by this. There's no doubt that the Force powers are really cool, and being able to be a healer is always nice. Unfortunately, the class is let down badly by its low DPS & surprisingly squishy companions, meaning that unlike the Shadow who can often kill enemies before they can hurt you or your companion too badly, you are definitely forced to cast healing spells to win most fights (even if you're Telekinetics specced).

    It is still a really cool class in its own right, but, to be blunt, having to constantly spam heal you/your companion to stay alive is no fun. If SWTOR's combat system wasn't so unfriendly to a "caster" ranged class or you actually had the DPS to kill mobs on your own, the Sage would probably be one of my favorite classes in this game. As it stands, I got mine to around Alderaan before giving up and rerolling as a Shadow, which I found WAY easier/less annoying to level up (especially KC specced with the healer companion). And this is coming from someone who usually prefers casting to melee in games like WoW.

    In terms of storyline I'd have to say Imperial Agent. I will say that if you're a fan of James Bond-type themes you will probably LOVE this class, but I personally am not really into authority/military - from what I've seen I think I will like the Bounty Hunter & Smuggler storylines much better. But I think a really UNDERrated story is the Jedi Consular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFrombaugh View Post
    Which class was super hyped, and became a let down for you?

    For me it's the Jedi Sage/Sith Sorcerer, no contest.
    I think that's because you are looking at the class as a whole; including its story and leveling experience.

    While this is the correct way to go about it.

    Most people feel that the hybrid specs for sage/sorc are some of the strongest specs in the game for small scale pvp. (1-3v1-3)

    Which may be true.

    However, like I said earlier in the post, I think you have the right outlook on what makes a class "good".
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    For me it is the Sith Inquisitor.

    It's quite literally all flash and no substance. I say literally because of all the lightning attacks that shine so brightly and constantly to bring in the ogling crows.

    The whole story is predictable betrayal after betrayal. Find some ancient sith artifacts that will inevitably drive someone mad/extreme lengths and with plenty of needless destruction and pain along the way.

    For the whole imperial side in general and especially the sith classes good and evil seem to come down to overboard violence (= evil but only in SOME cases) or spare someone (= apparently godly good when you spare them). The moral choices are all very shallow and need to really be bent when they are considered "good".

    I also hear a lot of praise for the Imperial agent which I don't think is a very good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argroth View Post
    I hear a lot of praise for the Imperial agent which I don't think is a very good one.
    Its clear you haven't played one (And by "played one" I mean taking one past chapter 1)

    For the whole imperial side in general and especially the sith classes good and evil seem to come down to overboard violence (= evil but only in SOME cases) or spare someone (= apparently godly good when you spare them). The moral choices are all very shallow and need to really be bent when they are considered "good".
    now its VERY clear you haven't played an agent :P

    If there's a subversion of "Empire = Evil" in the whole game, the agent is that subversion.

    You end up saving the entire galaxy (READ: Not the empire, THE ENTIRE GALAXY including the republic) from an ancient conspiracy terrorist group hellbent on forcing the republic and the empire to kill each other (And said Ancient-Conspiracy Illuminati-like group is made up of the most powerful nobility and politicians of the empire AND the republic. Humans and aliens alike, no bigotry here)

    If you are truly lightside, you become a bonafide double-agent for the republic, intent on reforming the empire from the shadows


    There is a good reason the Agent story is lauded by most players as the best one in the game. The fact that the female agent is voiced by Jo Wyatt (Female Hawke on Dragon Age 2) only serves to further sweeten the deal even more.

    Por que odiar si amar es mas dulce? (*^_^*)

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    The most overrated class as I can see it so far (haven't played it past act 1 yet) is the juggernaut/guardian.
    There's just not enough going on for my tastes. Every button I push feels like some bland version of 'Hit stuff in the face.' Resource build isn't exactly what it should be either, so it all feels very static to me.
    I'm not saying it's bad; it just feels very bland, and lacks flow.

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    I'll go with jagger/guardian. Overhyped because clearly all the famouse characters from movies are guardians and Vader is a jagger, yet sentinels are infinitely cooler, fun and more powerful. Hell, even shadows are more interesting than jaggers.

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    The class i felt dissapointed in most is the Sentinal/Maurauder, mainly because they felt so squishy compared to my Shadow/Assasin and Knight/Juggernaut. I guess 2 lightsabers is overated, since my dps knight feels like she does the same amount of damage, but she isnt as squishy.

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    I didn't buy into the hype but I know for the first couple months it was all about the missile spam with Bounty Hunter's. For me it was more about which class was the public's flavor of the month.

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    I don't know what you consider to be a criteria for "overrated". For me, it's the Jedi Knight. Their storyline is beyond boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notorious98 View Post
    I don't know what you consider to be a criteria for "overrated". For me, it's the Jedi Knight. Their storyline is beyond boring.
    While I respect your opinion I have to ask, how far in did you get?

    I found the jk story to be the highest stakes and thus most dramatic story of them all. I would go further but i am unsure how to do spoiler wrap on this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hk-51 View Post
    While I respect your opinion I have to ask, how far in did you get?

    I found the jk story to be the highest stakes and thus most dramatic story of them all. I would go further but i am unsure how to do spoiler wrap on this forum.
    This is a problem that a lot of people have with the stories of a lot of classes.

    Get the facts straight folks, the prelude, and chapter one of ALMOST EVERY CLASS is incredibly boring as hell. Stuff gets interesting after chapter 2.

    Some exceptions apply of course, but even my favorite story (Agent) is incredibly lame during the prelude and first chapter.

    So don't judge books by their cover pls.

    Por que odiar si amar es mas dulce? (*^_^*)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derah View Post
    This is a problem that a lot of people have with the stories of a lot of classes.

    Get the facts straight folks, the prelude, and chapter one of ALMOST EVERY CLASS is incredibly boring as hell. Stuff gets interesting after chapter 2.

    Some exceptions apply of course, but even my favorite story (Agent) is incredibly lame during the prelude and first chapter.

    So don't judge books by their cover pls.
    The thing is, JKs story line for act one is actually... quite epic.

    I mean, essentially eden prime gets microwaved! killing trillions and disrupting food supplies across the galaxy! Your master gets publicly executed by your nemesis and its broadcasted over the holonet!On top of this, you find out that your padawan was trained as a sith and is somehow a puppet for the emperor. I think that's starting off on the right foot, personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derah View Post
    This is a problem that a lot of people have with the stories of a lot of classes.

    Get the facts straight folks, the prelude, and chapter one of ALMOST EVERY CLASS is incredibly boring as hell. Stuff gets interesting after chapter 2.

    Some exceptions apply of course, but even my favorite story (Agent) is incredibly lame during the prelude and first chapter..
    I have to respectfully disagree. I think the Consular prelude was on one of the best quest arcs in the game. Basically learning about the philosophy of the Dark Jedi and being given the choice to even follow their path was soooooo awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahjam326 View Post
    I have to respectfully disagree. I think the Consular prelude was on one of the best quest arcs in the game. Basically learning about the philosophy of the Dark Jedi and being given the choice to even follow their path was soooooo awesome.
    yeah, by level 25 my sage felt like Dexter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hk-51 View Post
    While I respect your opinion I have to ask, how far in did you get?

    I found the jk story to be the highest stakes and thus most dramatic story of them all. I would go further but i am unsure how to do spoiler wrap on this forum.
    I'm in the middle of Chapter 3. Boring stuff. "ZOMG, Empurur tryin to kill peeplz." Nothing new here.

    I thought to myself as I was breaking free from the Emperor's will and Scourge joined my crew that it was going to get sweet. So far, I've been wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahjam326 View Post
    I have to respectfully disagree. I think the Consular prelude was on one of the best quest arcs in the game. Basically learning about the philosophy of the Dark Jedi and being given the choice to even follow their path was soooooo awesome.
    Quote Originally Posted by hk-51 View Post
    The thing is, JKs story line for act one is actually... quite epic.

    I mean, essentially eden prime gets microwaved! killing trillions and disrupting food supplies across the galaxy! Your master gets publicly executed by your nemesis and its broadcasted over the holonet!On top of this, you find out that your padawan was trained as a sith and is somehow a puppet for the emperor. I think that's starting off on the right foot, personally.
    Ejem, this is why I said "almost" every class :P

    Mileages may vary, and some classes are the exception (I found chapter 1 of the marauder to be very entertaining, and the prelude of the bounty hunter was awesome) but on an overall general scope, the plot only "thickens" after chapter 2.

    Por que odiar si amar es mas dulce? (*^_^*)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hk-51 View Post
    The thing is, JKs story line for act one is actually... quite epic.

    I mean, essentially eden prime gets microwaved! killing trillions and disrupting food supplies across the galaxy! Your master gets publicly executed by your nemesis and its broadcasted over the holonet!On top of this, you find out that your padawan was trained as a sith and is somehow a puppet for the emperor. I think that's starting off on the right foot, personally.
    The ending of a story doesn't make it epic, which (essentially) the end of each Chapter is. To me, Fight Club isn't epic because of how it ends or the plot twist. It's epic because it's an extremely well told, interesting story. The plot twist is just a flavor that adds to the experience. The ending is just the culmination of great story telling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notorious98 View Post
    The ending of a story doesn't make it epic, which (essentially) the end of each Chapter is. To me, Fight Club isn't epic because of how it ends or the plot twist. It's epic because it's an extremely well told, interesting story. The plot twist is just a flavor that adds to the experience. The ending is just the culmination of great story telling.
    I felt that that alderaan and narshadaa were well told in the JK story for chapter 1. As to chapter 3, the story line is essentially the same as full metal alchemist brotherhood. Which I happened to enjoy (as it was very different from the american show.) So perhaps its some nostalgia that is making it interesting.

    How it is like fmab: main villain plans to cause war and death in an effort to preform a ritual that transfers life into power. At an earlier time the main villain used this ability and destroyed and entire civilization to become the force it is today. The end goal of the villain is to become god like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hk-51 View Post
    I felt that that alderaan and narshadaa were well told in the JK story for chapter 1. As to chapter 3, the story line is essentially the same as full metal alchemist brotherhood. Which I happened to enjoy (as it was very different from the american show.) So perhaps its some nostalgia that is making it interesting.
    I never thought about it in those terms, but I do agree

    Personally for me the JK story was interesting in the prelude, chapter 1 was a bit slow, chapter 2 still slow until the end of that was epic It was particularly funny because I leveled the whole way with two other people so while I am being a tool of the emperor they are running around with me. One my friends made the observation that it's weird they were running around the emperor's ship all free and stuff with me that was hilarious. , and chapter 3 was really fun for me. Though if you killed all the people you had the option to kill during the storyline the ramp up to the end probably would feel less epic because you don't have the whole "rallying the troops" thing to do. Especially the end that was just fun and interesting, even though because of the way I was playing my character I was pretty much forced to take -2k affection with him.

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    sorceror was my first class ind I thought leveling was ok. in retrospec now, after leveling a juggernaut and a sentinel, sorceror was really hard. the two warrior classes are ridicoulusly strong while leveling and with zero downtimes.
    I am on an assassin right now and its even harder, by far the toughest I have done so far. as a juggernaut I could easily do 2+ missions witthout cooldowns, as an assassin with deception spec, i cant even do the elites in my story missions witthout switching to the tank mode.

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