Why are wild cats stronger than wild dogs but not the other way around?

[TheEaterofSouls]

I wonder why predators like lions, panthers, and tigers are stronger than wolves and foxes. Yet Domestic cats are the enemies of domestic dogs?

Why is this? What happened to cats when they domesticated that caused them to become weaker than dogs? Also why are dogs even rivals with cats in the 1st place? Did something happen in there natural habitat? I mean if a wolf picked a fight with a lion he would lose. Any idea why wild cats are stronger than wild dogs but domestic cats aren't nearly as powerful as there wild counterparts?

[Deleted]

Uhm there are small wild cats as well. It's not like "house cat= small", "wild cat=big". Actually small cats are more successful in surviving then big, who are partially on the brink of extinction.

[dotOrion]

I wouldn't be so quick to write off the domesticated cat. One clean swipe at the dog's nose and he'll be thinking twice about chasing said cat.

[Santos De Amor]

stupid question is stupid.

Big cats and feral canines are WAY different than your standard dog and cat.
Cats and dogs have been this way for over thousands of years, and they aren't rivals. Dogs and cats who have never met each other are strangers and
get into scuffles.
some people have both dogs and cats and they don't have problems.
And wolves and lions never meet each other naturally in the wild.
Retard.

Infracted. Flaming isn't tolerated here

[Ellesarr]

comparing wild cats/dogs with wolfs and lions. gj

[Deleted]

When the two animals were domesticated the cat was there as a modern family pet and/or something to have chase the rats, thus they were small to be cuddle-able and quick, a lion probably makes a poor rat hunter due to its size and inability to get into tight spaces where rats live. Dogs were at first hunting companions and helped guard property or similar. I can't really explain why it was easier to tame wolves back then that it was to tame cats, but I guess that the lack of naturally small dogs (I honestly don't know of any small races today that aren't so because of breeding throughout the centuries) but an abundance of naturally small cats (not so much today, most small cats have been domesticated) is quite a selling point.

[draykorinee]

I love the randomness of off topic...who sits down and goes, my dog just kicked that cats ass I must discuss :P Im pretty sure that size is a major factor, my friends cat bullies the hell out of the 2 jack russells. Why are they rivals, both are territorial animals even after the taming process plus interspecies 'friendships' are rare anyway, we had a chipmunk and a mouse who lived together for 2 years after the mouse escaped, was cute but not normal.

[Kakera]

stupid question is stupid.

Big cats and feral canines are WAY different than your standard dog and cat.
Cats and dogs have been this way for over thousands of years, and they aren't rivals. Dogs and cats who have never met each other are strangers and
get into scuffles.
some people have both dogs and cats and they don't have problems.
And wolves and lions never meet each other naturally in the wild.
Retard.

Pointing out the really obvious and yet calling someone a retard. That's priceless.

[Pfeff]

I'm more worried about my two cats tearing up my dog than the other way around. They both still have all their claws and my dog is about 50 pounds, but the way smaller cats will win everytime. They'd smack my dog 50 times before she knew what was even happening. Luckily they are all best of friends though and love to cuddle with my 18 month old son

[TheEaterofSouls]

Pointing out the really obvious and yet calling someone a retard. That's priceless.

I reported it so we'll see what happens :/

I should done a simple lion vs. wolf thread.

[tekoix]

My cats aren't afraid of my big dog, one of them even ripped the sh*t out of it before and I have to watch the cat to make sure it doesn't do it again.

[smelltheglove]

1: the cat has never been domesticated. it gets along with us, some more than others, but the housecat is not considered truly "domestic"

2: size - put a housecat with a bad attitude against a dog in its weight class and watch the result. pound for pound pretty much all cats are brutal fighters. dogs can be tough and all, but they are at their heart pack hunters, not one-on-one brawlers

3: not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog that matters. this old expression is pretty apt, even when it comes to cats. i've seen cats weighing 8 pounds run off dogs weighing 80 pounds. it comes down to the dog and the cat involved

[TheEaterofSouls]

My cats aren't afraid of my big dog, one of them even ripped the sh*t out of it before and I have to watch the cat to make sure it doesn't do it again.

The stereotype itself always gave me questions. I had a dog that loved my cats. She would always hang out with them and would never lay a hand on them. She pasted away 2 years ago

Are dogs who act like this rare?

[Deleted]

I think wild cats don't and can't afford to stay relaxed like most domesticated cats. Also wild cats are a lot more agile and don't get fat like most domesticated cats, so as a side effect, they loose their agility.

One of my cats was from the street, tbh all my cats were from the street, and she was very agile and could jump very high and that, now a few years later, she can barely jump up to 1.50 meters..

[smelltheglove]

The stereotype itself always gave me questions. I had a dog that loved my cats. She would always hang out with them and would never lay a hand on them. She pasted away 2 years ago

Are dogs who act like this rare?

no, they arent. it's actually quite common if they are introduced correctly. you basically have to let the dog know that the cat is part of the "pack", and if the dog accepts your leadership he will tolerate the cat, even if he hates it. in general dogs prefer a harmonious pack, so they will reach an accommodation, frequently developing into a genuine affection

[TheEaterofSouls]

no, they arent. it's actually quite common if they are introduced correctly. you basically have to let the dog know that the cat is part of the "pack", and if the dog accepts your leadership he will tolerate the cat, even if he hates it. in general dogs prefer a harmonious pack, so they will reach an accommodation, frequently developing into a genuine affection

This is good to know if we decide to get another dog.

[Schattenlied]

Yeah, domesticated cats didn't come from lions and tigers. Most of the domesticated dogs you're thinking of came from wolves, most domesticated cats came from:

Servals (were occasionally hunting pets in ancient egypt, they are still rarely kept as pets today, and for the most part act like a normal house cat when raised from birth by a human), Sardinian wildcat, the Pallas's cat and others like them. The Servals are still decent size, but the others are about as big as an average large house cat, those are what modern domesticated cats come from.

[FuxieDK]

I wonder why predators like lions, panthers, and tigers are stronger than wolves and foxes. Yet Domestic cats are the enemies of domestic dogs?

19 of 20 times, any domestic cat, will send ANY dog running away, with its tail between the legs..
The problem lies in the 20th time, where the dog manages to bite the cat.. Then the dog won't let go, until it crunches..

[Collegeguy]

If your going to compare the cat to lion... then you shouldn't be comparing dog to wolf. There is like a massive evolutionary gap there.

You should really find a much stronger, massive, prehistoric relative that branched off the chain to the dog to make that comparison. It is likely one we don't know about.

[IIamaKing]

I wonder why predators like lions, panthers, and tigers are stronger than wolves and foxes. Yet Domestic cats are the enemies of domestic dogs?

Why is this? What happened to cats when they domesticated that caused them to become weaker than dogs? Also why are dogs even rivals with cats in the 1st place? Did something happen in there natural habitat? I mean if a wolf picked a fight with a lion he would lose. Any idea why wild cats are stronger than wild dogs but domestic cats aren't nearly as powerful as there wild counterparts?

The big cats are like 3-4 time the size of a Wolf. House cats were not breed from big cats. They would have been domesticated from cats like the Lynx or bob cat. Cats that are already about the size of a house cat.