[Megathread] Star Citizen

[Zeta333]

I'm not sure if you posted in the right thread or not, but you can't even try to compare WoW with Star Citizen in this regard. SC isnt an MMORPG in the genre definition, so gameplay mechanics are completely different.

How is it not a MMORPG? You need groups of people to pilot certain ships, you are in a persistant universe with shitloads of people.

[masterhorus8]

How is it not a MMORPG? You need groups of people to pilot certain ships, you are in a persistant universe with shitloads of people.

it's not an RPG so it can't be an MMORPG, i didn't say it wasnt an MMO.

[Waaldo]

it's not an RPG so it can't be an MMORPG, i didn't say it wasnt an MMO.

I don't think RPG means what you think it means.

[Tierbook]

it's not an RPG so it can't be an MMORPG, i didn't say it wasnt an MMO.

What do you think an RPG is?

[zealo]

As far as I know the progression isn't tied to the player character but rather equipment on the ships, so it can't really be classified as an rpg if looking at mechanics alone.

Doesn't really matter in the end, its going to be mmo-like no matter what.

[masterhorus8]

As far as I know the progression isn't tied to the player character but rather equipment on the ships, so it can't really be classified as an rpg if looking at mechanics alone.

Doesn't really matter in the end, its going to be mmo-like no matter what.

thank you for understanding what i meant.

part of the genre definition of an RPG is having character progression. Yes, you may be roleplaying, but its not an RPG.

[nocturnus]

thank you for understanding what i meant.

part of the genre definition of an RPG is having character progression. Yes, you may be roleplaying, but its not an RPG.

But you do have character progression in SC, albeit not in the form of levels. It's an RPG in every respect.

[masterhorus8]

But you do have character progression in SC, albeit not in the form of levels. It's an RPG in every respect.

yeah, i give up. the person that told me the definitions of the genres a while ago swears he never did....but still, SC is not classified as an RPG, look it up. same reason why most FPS games arent RPGs.

[nocturnus]

yeah, i give up. the person that told me the definitions of the genres a while ago swears he never did....but still, SC is not classified as an RPG, look it up. same reason why most FPS games arent RPGs.

That matters little. In the end, it has many RPG elements, essentially making it an RPG/shooter/massively online game/space sim.

Games of this size, often do not fit in merely one category. ED isn't considered an RPG either, nevertheless, it has many RPG elements.

[Deleted]

it's not an RPG so it can't be an MMORPG, i didn't say it wasnt an MMO.

RPG means 'role playing' , and that means immersive shared fantasy universe... and SC definitely fits that label.

Therefore MMORPG is a fair genre to categorise SC.

[masterhorus8]

I came in here to try and clean up this cespit of a thread after trolls took a shit all over it. And here i am arguing with a bunch of you people over the fucking genre of a game. You guys make me sad. Im done. Have fun with the rest of this miserable thread.

[zealo]

But you do have character progression in SC, albeit not in the form of levels. It's an RPG in every respect.

As the game is currently planned for the PU, no you do not.

Stats, perks, talent choices, what have you, all that not going to be there, with characters themselves essentially disposable with permadeaths mechanics passing belongings down to another character you create.

[nocturnus]

As the game is currently planned for the PU, no you do not.

Stats, perks, talent choices, what have you, all that not going to be there, with characters themselves essentially disposable with permadeaths mechanics passing belongings down to another character you create.

Yes, you do have character progression. The 'wow way' isn't the only way.

What would you call saving up money, to upgrade your weapons, ships and general gear? Indeed, character progression. The inheritance system, is just a (creative) variation of the unlimited resurrections, in other rpgs.

You can beat around the bush all you want, that won't change any of these facts.

I came in here to try and clean up this cespit of a thread after trolls took a shit all over it. And here i am arguing with a bunch of you people over the fucking genre of a game. You guys make me sad. Im done. Have fun with the rest of this miserable thread.

A good, civil, discussion raises awareness.

[Waaldo]

As the game is currently planned for the PU, no you do not.

Stats, perks, talent choices, what have you, all that not going to be there, with characters themselves essentially disposable with permadeaths mechanics passing belongings down to another character you create.

Stats, perks, and talents aren't staples of RPG. They don't HAVE to be there. RPG means Role Playing Game. In Star Citizen you are taking over the role of a space ship pilot and the fact that you can die and then take over control of a sibling or child is just another, rather unorthodox, form of Role Playing. The single player portion might not be considered and RPG but the multiplayer PU fits the bill. There is no scripting, no rules, you play how you want. You fit your character into any Role you want, and that is the definition of RPG.

[Tierbook]

RPG means 'role playing' , and that means immersive shared fantasy universe... and SC definitely fits that label.

Therefore MMORPG is a fair genre to categorise SC.

nah, it's got FPS stuff to so it's a MMOFPSRPG

[Waaldo]

nah, it's got FPS stuff to so it's a MMOFPSRPG

But it's also a space ship simulator and has a persistent universe, so I guess it's a MMOPUFPSSSSRPG.

[Tierbook]

But it's also a space ship simulator and has a persistent universe, so I guess it's a MMOPUFPSSSSRPG.

hmmm.... what else is it..... crowd-funded? Would that make it a CFMMOPUFPSSSSRPG

[Wonaryn]

+1 for the Mass Effect Star Child)
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[Wilian]

Stats, perks, and talents aren't staples of RPG. They don't HAVE to be there. RPG means Role Playing Game. In Star Citizen you are taking over the role of a space ship pilot and the fact that you can die and then take over control of a sibling or child is just another, rather unorthodox, form of Role Playing. The single player portion might not be considered and RPG but the multiplayer PU fits the bill. There is no scripting, no rules, you play how you want. You fit your character into any Role you want, and that is the definition of RPG.

You are entirely and absolutely wrong. You mistake the concept of roleplaying and roleplaying game entirely. There is a STARK difference between the two and their concepts. Roleplaying games are mechanically driven games where you may RP and the game by its mechanics and ruleset either supports it or not (In which case pretend roleplaying like many do in Skyrim happens) but roleplaying in RPG is not mandatory and it'll work perfectly fine if you treated it just as mechanically interesting and diverse game.

Just like you can pretend-roleplay in about any game (I'm a big CEO of Transport Tycoon!) but that does not make TTP a Roleplaying Game.

The game part of the name implies rules and rulesets that shape the roleplay part. When those things are not mechanically represented and statistically driven, you are simply making things up and in essence larping in enviroment that does not provide experience by itself.

[Ripster42]

You are entirely and absolutely wrong. You mistake the concept of roleplaying and roleplaying game entirely. There is a STARK difference between the two and their concepts. Roleplaying games are mechanically driven games where you may RP and the game by its mechanics and ruleset either supports it or not (In which case pretend roleplaying like many do in Skyrim happens) but roleplaying in RPG is not mandatory and it'll work perfectly fine if you treated it just as mechanically interesting and diverse game.

Just like you can pretend-roleplay in about any game (I'm a big CEO of Transport Tycoon!) but that does not make TTP a Roleplaying Game.

The game part of the name implies rules and rulesets that shape the roleplay part. When those things are not mechanically represented and statistically driven, you are simply making things up and in essence larping in enviroment that does not provide experience by itself.

You should have prefaced this with "In my opinion." RPG doesn't mean roll playing game, but role playing game.