do these people deserve more benefits?

[Deleted]

Oh of course mate as do I,
But I don't know any that enjoy it.

The point is that people work their asses off to support a family with £20k, which is a reasonable wage in the UK. These slobs get more than that for being fat and claiming it as an illness.

22k is more than a private in the British army earns, he would have to work hard for 4 years and get promoted to Lance corporal in order to get paid more than that family.

http://www.navycs.com/uk/2011-british-military-pay.html

[Zippoflames]

Guys I am not on £100,000 a year lol, I said my household income is that. we have 4 people working in my house so all together we get around 100k

[Deleted]

100k is not a high income. Not poor, but certainly not rich.

100k is more than the average medical doctor earns, I would certainly class that wage as quite high.

[Mercadi]

Too fat to work? Are they serious? If there's something they deserve it's some whipping until they realize that working is better.

[Decagon]

I know people fatter than that who work regular jobs. They're just lazy asses and are the lazy people with no self-control that people seem to think of when they think of obese.

[macdisciple]

Being obese is a choice. Sure, you could have a slower metabolism and "bad genes"; but if you modify your diet and routine to accommodate that, then there is no excuse to be overweight. They should receive nothing more. They chose their lifestyle, they should learn to live with it. If they don't feel life they're getting enough money, they should exercise and eat correctly and get a job.

That is not 100% true. My sister eats healthy and does mini-triathalons regularly, yet she is 5'2", over 200 pounds, and clinically obese.

[endersblade]

I think they should be fed a heavy meal of lead, to tell you the truth. They're nothing but a burden on society, and they freely admit that. Make them worm food, at least they'll do SOMEthing useful in their life (or death).

[Zippoflames]

The point is that people work their asses off to support a family with £20k, which is a reasonable wage in the UK. These slobs get more than that for being fat and claiming it as an illness.

22k is more than a private in the British army earns, he would have to work hard for 4 years and get promoted to Lance corporal in order to get paid more than that family.

http://www.navycs.com/uk/2011-british-military-pay.html

Then I am afraid we will have to agree to disagree, I do not think 20k is anywhere near a reasonable wage today in the UK.

Now I do not disagree with you about them being lazy because if they all worked 38 hours a week at the current UK minimum wage the family would have around 50k a year to throw around.

Now I do not know much about the army (which is shocking because my work directly involves the MoD lol) but is private the entry rank into the army? so if it is then 22k for the bottom of the ladder is certainly a decent wage and as you said I am sure it goes up via promotion and time served as does most jobs on the outsde?

[Deleted]

100k is not a high income. Not poor, but certainly not rich.

100k is a very high income. If you don't realise that you really need a reality check, do you realise what a lot of people I this country manage on? Are you really that out of touch?

[Deleted]

No; but lets take a breath here and not go on another witch-hunt against welfare just because a few slobs abuse a system that helps thousands of people around the country.

I think this one has got it quite right.

[jazen]

100k is more than the average medical doctor earns, I would certainly class that wage as quite high.

It is all relative. 100k is quite a lot when compared to someone on minimum wage. But in reality, it isn't that much money. Hell, even Mitt Romney considers 100k to be lower middle class (if you compare it to his $200,000 tax statements).

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100k is a very high income. If you don't realise that you really need a reality check, do you realise what a lot of people I this country manage on? Are you really that out of touch?

You are missing the point. 100k is really not that much money.

[Azutael]

"Too fat to work" What a bullshit attitude, I see people that are a lot fatter doing just fine....

[Deleted]

Then I am afraid we will have to agree to disagree, I do not think 20k is anywhere near a reasonable wage today in the UK.

Now I do not disagree with you about them being lazy because if they all worked 38 hours a week at the current UK minimum wage the family would have around 50k a year to throw around.

Now I do not know much about the army (which is shocking because my work directly involves the MoD lol) but is private the entry rank into the army? so if it is then 22k for the bottom of the ladder is certainly a decent wage and as you said I am sure it goes up via promotion and time served as does most jobs on the outsde?

Its almost double minimum wage, very high if you are unskilled which is what most of the population are.

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Then I am afraid we will have to agree to disagree, I do not think 20k is anywhere near a reasonable wage today in the UK.

Now I do not disagree with you about them being lazy because if they all worked 38 hours a week at the current UK minimum wage the family would have around 50k a year to throw around.

Now I do not know much about the army (which is shocking because my work directly involves the MoD lol) but is private the entry rank into the army? so if it is then 22k for the bottom of the ladder is certainly a decent wage and as you said I am sure it goes up via promotion and time served as does most jobs on the outsde?

22k is the highest point a Private can earn, a newly qualified soldier straight out of training would be on 16k. Still disgusting to think those lazy lobs get as much for doing bugger all.

[Deleted]

Then I am afraid we will have to agree to disagree, I do not think 20k is anywhere near a reasonable wage today in the UK.

Now I do not disagree with you about them being lazy because if they all worked 38 hours a week at the current UK minimum wage the family would have around 50k a year to throw around.

Now I do not know much about the army (which is shocking because my work directly involves the MoD lol) but is private the entry rank into the army? so if it is then 22k for the bottom of the ladder is certainly a decent wage and as you said I am sure it goes up via promotion and time served as does most jobs on the outsde?

To give you some perspective, my job requires a postgrad masters and professional accreditation, I have been in it over 5years, I am on £22k. And I a taking pay cuts this year and next with a pay freeze fate that for the foreseeable future. I also pay a substantial amount into a pension which is being raided by my government to pay for private sector workers who get paid more, and who don't pay into a pension, and who fucked up the economy through greed.

Welcome to public service in the uk.


I like my job, I feel I contribute to society, but like an awful lot of this country, my wages are pants. That's ok, I don't live an extravagant life, but the reality is that anyone who thinks 100k is not a really high salary is so deluded it's not even funny.

Not you btw, I note you other comments, but the person above who said 100k was not a high salary.

[Silhouette of Seraphim]

I wouldn't give them shit.

[Deleted]

I wouldn't give them shit.

That is where we differ, I would give them more shit than they could handle.

[Silhouette of Seraphim]

Furthermore, if they're truly fat because of their genes, then they should do the decent thing and remove them. There's obviously of no benefit to anyone, ever.

[Zippoflames]

Its almost double minimum wage, very high if you are unskilled which is what most of the population are.

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22k is the highest point a Private can earn, a newly qualified soldier straight out of training would be on 16k. Still disgusting to think those lazy lobs get as much for doing bugger all.

Well I hate it that I am trying to defend the family because I really do think they should get jobs, Obese people can work in call centers and stuff where being that size does not stop them working.

But

A family of four being totally new qualified soldiers would have a household income of 64k, The fat family have a combined of 22k thats my only point.
Sorry I am not trying to be argumentative but for me with a family of four myself would not want to survive on 22k because you are certainly not living on 22k. (for 4 adults)

[Luuth]

100k is not a high income. Not poor, but certainly not rich.

100k is not especially high for a family, but is pretty good for an individual. (I realize this is for a family)

Also, as an American I dont see the big deal here. By my standards they arent really that obese. I would love to look like they do; so fit and trim. I mean seriously, as long as you can move and stand under you're own power you should be able to work. Plus, if they can get a rascal or another scooter of some kind that should actually make working easier. Those scooters are way faster than normal human walking speed.

[Deleted]

No, and if they wish to keep their current benefits they'd have to lose a certain amount of weight every week and eventualy work, ofcourse.
Genes do decide wether you get fat faster or not but it's NO excuse to claim you're fat becuase of it. Eat the right food, eat the right amount of calories and work out... done.