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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Shakari View Post
    right so the ONLY advantage of a SSD is loading times and not actual game play or "use" of the program if its not a game, tbh thats not a large plus lol
    Using a normal HD, they lasts longer and for the sake of a few saved seconds I can play a game with just as good FPS. SSD's are hardly the be all and end all hehe
    One problem with this - SSDs have a MUCH longer lifespan than conventional hard drives. No moving parts means it lasts way, way longer. But your conclusion is essentially correct; the cost-benefit ratio of SSDs isn't very good right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gobra View Post
    I think you should learn to read, try reading the thread and you will see Valock called it "overpriced bullSHIT" So clearly it isn't me that needs to learn something lol

    And misquoting? Care to try to explain that one? My reply was directly in response to what i quoted, I'm sorry, but you are full of fail
    There is a clear difference between calling something shit, and describing an overpriced product as a bullshit situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clampy View Post
    Of course there is a benefit, otherwise people wouldn't do it. You can't tell me you would pay X amount more for the next CPU step up and then say overclocking yields no benefit.
    Upgrading your cpu (from say an i7 to the next gen i7) yields little to no benefit to games.
    Overclocking your cpu whatever it may be yields no to little benefit to games.


    Un-educated people overclock their cpu's because they wrongly think they will get more fps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alienlool View Post
    There is a clear difference between calling something shit, and describing an overpriced product as a bullshit situation.
    Can you seriously please try to read properly, he said "Don't you ever go for Alienware... overpriced bullshit imho" that -IS- calling it shit, that's not calling the situation shit, that is straight up calling the product, Bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gobra View Post
    Can you seriously please try to read properly, he said "Don't you ever go for Alienware... overpriced bullshit imho" that -IS- calling it shit, that's not calling the situation shit, that is straight up calling the product, Bullshit
    He is describing the "overpriced" as bullshit.

    He did not call the product shit.

    Stop mis-quoting and mincing words. You're almost as bad as a newspaper journalist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alienlool View Post
    There is a clear difference between calling something shit, and describing an overpriced product as a bullshit situation.

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    Upgrading your cpu (from say an i7 to the next gen i7) yields little to no benefit to games.
    Overclocking your cpu whatever it may be yields no to little benefit to games.


    Un-educated people overclock their cpu's because they wrongly think they will get more fps.
    WoW and other CPU intensive games benefit greatly from overclocking. You're the one who's uneducated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alienlool View Post
    There is a clear difference between calling something shit, and describing an overpriced product as a bullshit situation.

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    Upgrading your cpu (from say an i7 to the next gen i7) yields little to no benefit to games.
    Overclocking your cpu whatever it may be yields no to little benefit to games.


    Un-educated people overclock their cpu's because they wrongly think they will get more fps.
    never seen differences for skyrim with or without overclocked cpu i guess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alienlool View Post
    He is describing the "overpriced" as bullshit.

    He did not call the product shit.

    Stop mis-quoting and mincing words. You're almost as bad as a newspaper journalist.
    Oh come on, please, stop, you're trying -way- too hard, and it's a getting silly now, anyone with half a brain can see that calling something "overpriced bullshit" is calling the product, bullshit, that is overpriced, there really is no other way here, so either you're just a terrible troll, or English isn't something you're very good at, either way, it's pointless to keep entertaining your rubbish

    Edit, just to add, if it was what you seem to think, then it would have been "Alienware is overpriced, which is bullshit"
    Last edited by GKLeatherCraft; 2012-10-28 at 02:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inux94 View Post
    WoW and other CPU intensive games benefit greatly from overclocking. You're the one who's uneducated.
    Thats why i said "little to no benefit to games".

    The VAST majority of the games on the market will have no benefit to overclocking cpu's.

    MMO's are an exception, and even at stock speeds, the latest intel processors will not be a major bottle neck to fps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shroudster View Post
    never seen differences for skyrim with or without overclocked cpu i guess?
    This, Alienlool clearly doesn't know what he is talking about, another kid on the forums pretending to know more than everyone else, whilst knowing nothing and making a fool of himself

    On my old PC, i had to overclock to raid, and it was a huge difference, and as Shroudster says, Skyrim on the PC also, there is a very, very big difference

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by alienlool View Post
    Etc
    Don't try to be clever about this, alienlool. It's fine to critique him for perhaps misinterpreting, but don't go interpreting it on your own and calling everyone else's interpretation wrong.

    Besides that, just a page ago you were calling inux an "Intel salesman" when you were seriously misinterpreting him well beyond reason. Is it your place to call others on doing so afterwards?

    Alienware is overpriced. Most Dell-things probably are aside from certain builds (Cyanotical remembers which ones better than me). But I gotta hand it to them that Dell has some excellent customer service. While I wouldn't consider it worth it (the three Ultrasharp monitors I bought because they were good, not because they were Dell), I think it's up to an individual person to choose whether or not they think it's worth it.

    I just believe it really needs to be made a point of how expensive the stuff is compared to building it yourself. And I certainly would never recommend anyone an Alienware at any point. I'd rather build it for them myself at that point if they just don't want to put it together on their own.
    Last edited by Drunkenvalley; 2012-10-28 at 02:07 PM. Reason: Adding quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gobra View Post
    Oh come on, please, stop, you're trying -way- too hard, and it's a getting silly now, anyone with half a brain can see that calling something "overpriced bullshit" is calling the product, bullshit, that is overpriced, there really is no other way here, so either you're just a terrible troll, or English isn't something you're very good at, either way, it's pointless to keep entertaining your rubbish

    "Bull", meaning nonsense, dates from the 17th century.....it might be noted that these older meanings are synonymous with the modern expression "bull" otherwise generally considered, and intentionally used as, a contraction of "bullshit"
    Describing the overpriced situation as nonsense, is greatly different from describing a product as "shit".

    You're flat out wrong, and back peddling.

    Sorry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenvalley View Post
    Besides that, just a page ago you were calling inux an "Intel salesman"
    I did not.

    I described it as a possibility from a choice of two selections.

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by alienlool View Post
    I did not.

    I described it as a possibility from a choice of two selections.
    So you tell Gobra he's backpedaling, and literally in the same post you are too. That's fantastic. No, really. Made my day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alienlool View Post
    Describing the overpriced situation as nonsense, is greatly different from describing a product as "shit".

    You're flat out wrong, and back peddling.

    Sorry about that.

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    I did not.

    I described it as a possibility from a choice of two selections.
    Lol, Yet still your reading comprehension fails you You try to use OLD meanings, in current day situations? really? That is all you've got? Rofl =D Please, Fail some more, I'm sure there are plenty of people here getting a good laugh at your expense=)

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    seems like logic has reached a brick wall in his head
    the also not bringing any sources been quite entertaining aswell while barely looking at the ones others provided.
    "grabs popcorn to continue watching entertainment"

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    Quote Originally Posted by alienlool View Post
    Upgrading your cpu (from say an i7 to the next gen i7) yields little to no benefit to games.
    Overclocking your cpu whatever it may be yields no to little benefit to games.


    Un-educated people overclock their cpu's because they wrongly think they will get more fps.
    I agree, but that's not what he said, he said there are "Absolutely no benefits to overclocking", which is false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shroudster View Post
    seems like logic has reached a brick wall in his head
    the also not bringing any sources been quite entertaining aswell while barely looking at the ones others provided.
    "grabs popcorn to continue watching entertainment"
    Can i get some of that Popcorn too? I'm done trying, time to observe

  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by inux94 View Post
    You obviously dont have an ssd in your rig or you wouldnt be arguing this point.

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    People too lazy to build their own systems buy Alienware, they are absolutely horrible in every regard. Poor quality components and horrendous tech support is what you get with Dell and Alienware, same company, same shit. Also, any true enthusiast buying quad channel memory would be buying a system with 2-3 times as much memory, since quad channel is redundant at 8GB in 2GB modules. I mean, if you are buying a socket 2011 based X79 rig, you are going to spend that much and get more out of the system itself.

  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    People too lazy to build their own systems buy Alienware, they are absolutely horrible in every regard. Poor quality components and horrendous tech support is what you get with Dell and Alienware, same company, same shit. Also, any true enthusiast buying quad channel memory would be buying a system with 2-3 times as much memory, since quad channel is redundant at 8GB in 2GB modules. I mean, if you are buying a socket 2011 based X79 rig, you are going to spend that much and get more out of the system itself.
    This is completely inflamatory, I own several DELL items including a laptop. The customer service is excellent, for the price on the day to day items the build quality is superior. Don't twist people into thinking your bad experience is typical assuming your not spouting garbage you read off a hate forum.

    Also, nothing is redundant about increasing the memory channels, even if it is in 2gb modules using the quad channel will out perform dual or single.
    Last edited by Milkshake86; 2012-10-28 at 02:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    People too lazy to build their own systems buy Alienware, they are absolutely horrible in every regard. Poor quality components and horrendous tech support is what you get with Dell and Alienware, same company, same shit. Also, any true enthusiast buying quad channel memory would be buying a system with 2-3 times as much memory, since quad channel is redundant at 8GB in 2GB modules. I mean, if you are buying a socket 2011 based X79 rig, you are going to spend that much and get more out of the system itself.
    not true by default i just didn't want to risk ruining for first truly expensive build last year so i got it build for 50 euro by the same company i ordered my parts.
    hell they even build in my laptop upgrades for free just because i bought them there.
    However by lurking these forums here and doing troubleshooting at relatives places alike i think i got what it takes for my next rig in a couple of years.

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