A man with a problem.....

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I find it hard to believe that a girl is letting you massage her boobs and her ass and everything else without being anything more than a friend. Idunno, this one seems strange to me.

Yeah, this is like "wtf". Maybe she's one of those girls who says no but really means yes? Like she wants him to fight or something. Seems fucking odd.

[Bigbazz]

Best way to get out of the friendzone is to make her jealouse by attracting other girls, maybe her friends. By attracting other girls she will wonder why she isnt getting the attention, what she is missing and will want what those other girls want. If you want her then you must turn the tables on her by raising your value from her perspective by showing her that you can be with other girls.

You're not dating her so seeing other girls is fine, you don't even need to kiss or date them, they just need to talk to you and seem interested in you. All you need to do is create a situation where you are actively interacting with and giving attention to other girls. Not over the top though, the intention is to change her perception by raising your value, you do that by making it seem that other girls are interested in you, you give the other girls the time and attention they need.

This will get you out of the friend zone and she will respect you more. In short, you need to make her see that other girls want you and that if you're only friends then you can and will see other girls.




When I was 16 I was in love with this girl, completely in love with her, she was also my best friend. Went on holiday with her and my family and she intended to lose her virginity to me, it didnt happen because I didnt have a clue what I was doing and fucked it up, then I fell in love with her and admitted it to her. The attention I gave her actually sealed the deal as it went from a girl I could have had sex with and had her as my girlfriend to a girl that had now completely friendzoned me (if you're too nice and you admit you love them and give them too much attention this is what happens! take note!), much in the same way that your girl has done to you. We slept next to each other and I used to massage her back, and I loved it just because I was next to her.

I was an idiot, don't be an idiot like I was.

[Netherspark]

You're looking at this the wrong way.

"Friend" for her doesn't mean no sex - there's no black and white distinction here. She likes to fool around but probably doesn't want anything serious from you, nor does she want to jeopardize the friendship.

[Pfeff]

Move the fuck on, man. When did men become this whiny and needy?

[Silhouette of Seraphim]

If shes just a friend and lets you touch certain parts of her that friends usually dont touch, makes you wonder what all her other guy friends get to do with her.


Cut your losses now.

Some don't think anything of it so long as they're getting material things that they want out of a guy that clearly isn't able to seal a deal.

[MAGAmobile]

This is probably the most bizarre post/story I have seen in a while, but it looks like she just wants you to buy her things. The whole touching her all over thing is kind of weird, though. She seems a little unstable, but I could be wrong because I don't know said person. Stop buying her stuff period and see how she responds to it. Don't give in to it because you like her either or you have absolutely no willpower or control in this situation. To be blunt, I would stay the hell away from her because she seems insane, but that's just me.

[Silhouette of Seraphim]

This is probably the most bizarre post/story I have seen in a while, but it looks like she just wants you to buy her things. The whole touching her all over thing is kind of weird, though.

Not really weird. She's engaging in a little what is essentially legal prostitution, it's just he's not getting any bang for his buck.

[MAGAmobile]

Maybe I didn't catch that part specifically from it, the whole situation just seems rather odd. I guess if they're both young anything is possible, but still..

[Deleted]

If a girl is obviously toying with You, tell her to fuck off. Most girls don't accept being treated as shit, no one should.
HOWEVER, she could've had bad luck with total asses and tries to see if it's her or her booty you're staying for. Make what You want clear to her, then either keep on being friends, not being friends or getting together.

[neanoa]

Trust me, if she says you'll never be together - just move on. It's not worth the headache or heartache.

Unless you really can accept just being friends and stop feeling for her - I'd suggest you distance yourself aswell completely. But don't waste your time or love for someone who won't return them.

[Deleted]

Thank you guys...all of you for your time and the replies that you gave me . I really appreciate it . Some more info about the girl she is a student in a university ( she is just 19 ) she like to mess around with other guys and flirt a lot but she told me that i just mess around with them because in the past they have mess around with me too. And when i asked her if she is just messing around with me she said that << no i don't mess around with you yo are a really nice guy sweet sensitive honest but you don't have what i look like to the man that i will be with you are not enough "man " and without many experiences in sex life and other stuff. i don't want to give you fake hopes " my name " . >>. When she is away from me because she lives in Athens and i live in Rhodes she txt me and telling me that she is missing me she miss my smile my hug and call me her baby and other sweet words . oh i forgot to mention that her mom call me some times and we talk and she like s me a lot .

I believe that she is just young and want to experiment a little bit and she see that i want a serious relationship and she is not ready for that right now that why she tell me to stay friends because she don't want to hurt my feeling because she had some relationships now that we are friends but she cheated them easily. so maybe she don't want to hurt me or cheat me because she knows that i am a good guy and she has admit that she will never find to other guys what i can do for her and no1 has ever care about her so much

[Tommy T]

I call Troll


Infracted.

[vizzle]

Thank you guys...all of you for your time and the replies that you gave me . I really appreciate it . Some more info about the girl she is a student in a university ( she is just 19 ) she like to mess around with other guys and flirt a lot but she told me that i just mess around with them because in the past they have mess around with me too. And when i asked her if she is just messing around with me she said that << no i don't mess around with you yo are a really nice guy sweet sensitive honest but you don't have what i look like to the man that i will be with you are not enough "man " and without many experiences in sex life and other stuff. i don't want to give you fake hopes " my name " . >>. When she is away from me because she lives in Athens and i live in Rhodes she txt me and telling me that she is missing me she miss my smile my hug and call me her baby and other sweet words . oh i forgot to mention that her mom call me some times and we talk and she like s me a lot .

I believe that she is just young and want to experiment a little bit and she see that i want a serious relationship and she is not ready for that right now that why she tell me to stay friends because she don't want to hurt my feeling because she had some relationships now that we are friends but she cheated them easily. so maybe she don't want to hurt me or cheat me because she knows that i am a good guy and she has admit that she will never find to other guys what i can do for her and no1 has ever care about her so much

Can you explain more on this "she lets me massage her boobs" situation? That's the most confusing part of this story.

[Deleted]

Can you explain more on this "she lets me massage her boobs" situation? That's the most confusing part of this story.

yeah i can explain well in the summer everynight she wanted me to masage her with body-care cream and one day she wanted me to massage and put body-care cream on her boobs too

[vizzle]

yeah i can explain well in the summer everynight she wanted me to masage her with body-care cream and one day she wanted me to massage and put body-care cream on her boobs too

That never got intimate??? You didn't like take your chance there? I kinda feel like that was your open door, and when you didn't take it she realized you were too much of a wimp for her liking (not to insult you). She wanted you to step up to the plate and do something.

Because honestly, friends don't let friends massage their boobs.

[Deleted]

well i had my chances and i have done somethings but a week after i did she called me in her house and tell me that she is angry with me and that i have disappointed her because she though that i was be something special and no like the other guys that they only think with their penis and what i did was be wrong because she was be half asleep also :/. but why to let me do it 4 times and to pass a week before she say that to me? ;/

[Selestarius]

Well first of all, I gotta say mate, without wanting to sound to harsh, your an absolute joke. Seriously. You must have 0 self-esteem, 0 self-confidence because it basically looks like you've been made into the gay bff without being gay.
Another way to look at it is that your so much of a pushover so much of a 'softy softy' kind of guy that your giving her everything she wants without getting anything in return.

This scenario does not end with happily ever after for you, it doesn't end with marriage and kids, the girl finally realising that she's been in love with you the whole time and was just too foolish to admit it. It ends with her going out with another bloke and you being completely sidelined untill she brakes up with him and your back to square one.
I don't know if this is a troll post or not like others have suggested, but w/e time for some harsh truths here mate. Ditch her, ditch the soft approach, stop being a pushover. Grow a pair and be a man.

[vizzle]

well i had my chances and i have done somethings but a week after i did she called me in her house and tell me that she is angry with me and that i have disappointed her because she though that i was be something special and no like the other guys that they only think with their penis and what i did was be wrong because she was be half asleep also :/. but why to let me do it 4 times and to pass a week before she say that to me? ;/

Yea, that's a little bit like rape, so...

Anyway, if I were you I'd just stop dealing with this girl. She seems like a giant pain in the ass. She doesn't respect you -- she leads you on and then tells you you're just a friend. Nobody is that oblivious. But also, for future reference, she doesn't respect you because you don't respect yourself. Don't ever let a girl walk on you like that. It's not attractive.

[Rotted]

If you want people to read your post, first make it readable...

Separate your sentences so they actually look normal, you can use almost any post here (or anywhere else) as an example.

People just won't submit themselves to brain damage going through that wall of a text.

Infracted: Please refrain from correcting other people's grammar/English. Especially don't post to only do that and not contribute to the actual issue at hand.

Erm its not perfect, but its more than understandable so no idea why your bitching about it, since the sites used all over the world

Right, I had a friend similar to this, minus the cooking, cuddling and getting annoyed about the number thing,

But from my point of view, it doesn't bother me too much since I've known her since we were like 3,

But I can see how your confused, a few of my mates know about this girl and their like WTF, because I don't make any advancements, I don't go out of my way to stare at her tits if she changing in the same room, and no I'm not gay before someone pulls that card, just somethings are more important than sex, not a lot, but this friendship is,

But yea back to your confusion, I would say approach her directly and ask her one more time, if you have feelings, if she says no, then you need to stop going around, stop the massaging because your just going to get obsessed with her and its going to destroy your social life in regards to going out to find someone who does like you

[Deleted]

Well first of all, I gotta say mate, without wanting to sound to harsh, your an absolute joke. Seriously. You must have 0 self-esteem, 0 self-confidence because it basically looks like you've been made into the gay bff without being gay.
Another way to look at it is that your so much of a pushover so much of a 'softy softy' kind of guy that your giving her everything she wants without getting anything in return.

This scenario does not end with happily ever after for you, it doesn't end with marriage and kids, the girl finally realising that she's been in love with you the whole time and was just too foolish to admit it. It ends with her going out with another bloke and you being completely sidelined untill she brakes up with him and your back to square one.
I don't know if this is a troll post or not like others have suggested, but w/e time for some harsh truths here mate. Ditch her, ditch the soft approach, stop being a pushover. Grow a pair and be a man.

well is there a way to change that ? i don't like to look like a softy man :/ but the truth is that i don't have a lot of self confidence because in the past i was be a fat guy and now that i have started to loose weight and be kinda normal i found that girl . Do you believe that i was be wrong to tell her that i believe that i am the right man for her because i am the only one that can make her happy and i don't want her to date stupid other guys that they only thing they want is just to have some fun with her?