That's a smart proxy to use.
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Then you have already accepted and readily defend a marketing strategy. Didn't we have TITAN308 talking about declining violence and crime on this very page? You are completely beholden to the fear-stoking of gun manufacturer's and their trade groups.
the statistics are not facts. they arent even close. however someone like you wouldnt understand ACTUAL facts. you use agenda to push your belief with limited to zero actual facts which is probably about as accurate as personal stories. you are literally putting words in every single gun owners mouth about ownership when you say that the numbers now are accurate. how many gun owners can you think of that would disagree? im guessing none. i HOWEVER know of dozens. i can personally disprove this BS. you however cant prove shit. not even personally by my guess.
The positive feedback loop between gun manufacturer's and their trade groups to firearm violence is palpable. They market, they stoke fear, they stoke uncertainty to get you and the rest of the bunch to purchase more ammo, more firearms. They want hysteria, this isn't the NRA of the middle of the 20th century. They are using subliminal messaging to create a false narrative on what it is to be a man, the coming collapse of the US, and that firearm ownership will even protect you in a situation where your life is threatened.
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How are they not facts? Either through suicide by firearm statistics or the GSS, those are raw numbers with binary responses.
And yet I've provided links showing that gun ownership statistics vary depending on several factors and you have several firearm owners on this forum who don't know each other all stating the same thing about disclosure of ownership.
But hey, whatever helps you keep your head in the sand, pal.
not even remotely because the survey isnt accurate itself. but let me do this for you.
"evidence supports the FACT that gun ownership is on the decline, so thats why we have less crime" -anti-gun
"ummmm those surveys do not represent the ownership population even remotely considering the people in the survey would have to own hundreds of guns per house to account for actual firearms owned in the u.s" -pro-gun
"ok fine, but the evidence does SUPPORT the IDEA that firearm ownership is declining" -anti-gun
"/scratchheadwtfretardedsurveyisretarded" -pro-gun
How does this prove that People buy guns because they are afraid of their government, afraid of "brown" people as you call them, or that they need to massage their egos?
"It's always one of the three, sometimes all three of them. Fear/hatred of blacks and minorities, unfounded fear of government confiscation, and material reinforcement to their own image of what it is to be masculine." - you
firearms HAVE proven to diffuse situations and save lives, and DAMN...do you believe the cell phone companies have an evil agenda to give you brain cancer with carrier waves? cause thats right in line with your conspiracy theory.
also, if guns arent used for protection, why do secret service carry them around a president who is ANTI-GUN?
All three survey's aren't accurate? How did you come to that conclusion?
No. For fucks sake, no. This is why the denial of decreased ownership is confusing. Just because firearm ownership is likely decreasing, does not mean that the decrease is causing a similar decrease in crime/homicide. I've stated this several times, very recently. There are many factors that go into violent crime rates."evidence supports the FACT that gun ownership is on the decline, so thats why we have less crime" -anti-gun
If ownership is decreasing, as it appears to be, all that means is that pro-2A individuals cannot accurately say "Well ownership is up and crime is down. Guns are good!"
Eat yo vegetables
But the "other side" (which includes law enforcement, public health, national security agencies, among others) have actual statistics and empirical evidence, the "pro-gun" side uses quotes from people who lived over two centuries ago and fear of the future, fear of collapse.