What if the U.S. committed genocide?

[bekilrwale]

This is very unlikely to happen but stick with me.

What would the world do if a nuclear armed and influential country, we will use the U.S. as an example, began committing mass genocide against its own people? Lets say the United States began rounding up people with birth defects and mental illnesses and began systematically exterminating them. Obviously this would create a massive outrage in the worldwide public and in a non-nuclear armed state would instantly be grounds for a U.N. talk of invasion, but nuclear arms changes the game. If the U.S. began exterminating its own citizens, would a foreign nation really invade to try and put an end to it? Sanctions I'm sure would come to play but the U.S. has a global military presence and their economy affects the entire world in a profound way.

So my question specifically is as follows: What do you think the countries of the world would do if a nuclear armed and influential country began massacring its own people? Do you think countries would risk an invasion of a nuclear armed state even though the genocide doesn't really affect their well-being? Would the world try to sever the country economically even if it hurts their own countries? Feel free to focus on if the U.S. was committing the genocide, and lets assume the persecution saw the execution of an upwards of 10+ million people and is still continuing.

[Khalahn]

As far as international law goes? There's actually no "legal" reason for invasion if the only people being targeted are the citizens of that country. Now, when we factor in nuclear weapons? Yeah, it's going to be assassinations, not full-scale invasions.

[gneugen]

Considering that even with all that power and that the US still doesn't dare intervene with the mass murdering leaders of some countries, it's safe to say that not much at all would happen except for a lot of embargos being put into place and a lot of unanswered American murders. My honest guess though, is you'd finally see people agreeing with all the Texans who've been preaching gun ownership all along, and that the US would self-destruct when we start shooting nukes at ourselves.

[Daerio]

We have no right to invade other countries when they commit genocide. Other countries would have no right to invade the US if we committed genocide.

I guess the difference between us and the rest of the world is that we think we're above the law, and we can do whatever we want to whoever we want.

[gzathegenius]

didn't we commit genocide already? you know..when we "discovered" America?

[Deleted]

I think nobody would really do anything but sanctions. Unless it affects the countries too much, it would probably just be best to leave the population fighting for themselves with some weapon provisions and volunteers. Nothing good would come out of fighting a nuclear-armed country just for the sake of saving people. Basically, something like how Sweden assisted Finland during WW2.

[Sand Person]

I think the world would celebrate (sans our allies which are few and far) that fact that the gov would commit mass murder on us. They hate us as it is.

[Kryos]

They already did commit genocidal acts in the past





And during WW2:

[Flappy]

This is very unlikely to happen but stick with me.

What would the world do if a nuclear armed and influential country, we will use the U.S. as an example, began committing mass genocide against its own people? Lets say the United States began rounding up people with birth defects and mental illnesses and began systematically exterminating them. Obviously this would create a massive outrage in the worldwide public and in a non-nuclear armed state would instantly be grounds for a U.N. talk of invasion, but nuclear arms changes the game. If the U.S. began exterminating its own citizens, would a foreign nation really invade to try and put an end to it? Sanctions I'm sure would come to play but the U.S. has a global military presence and their economy affects the entire world in a profound way.

So my question specifically is as follows: What do you think the countries of the world would do if a nuclear armed and influential country began massacring its own people? Do you think countries would risk an invasion of a nuclear armed state even though the genocide doesn't really affect their well-being? Would the world try to sever the country economically even if it hurts their own countries? Feel free to focus on if the U.S. was committing the genocide, and lets assume the persecution saw the execution of an upwards of 10+ million people and is still continuing.

There's a lot more than 10 million retards here.

The rest of the world would look on. Europe would frown, but they don't have the cojones to intervene. I can't necessarily blame them, it would be almost certain suicide.

[starlord]

"what if"? more like "remember when..."

[Deleted]

I don't see what the idea of it being a superpower has anything to do with it. North Korea isn't a superpower. Syria isn't a superpower. They're both killing their people and nobody cares more then to do some news reports once in a blue moon.

Same thing would happen here. maybe some different countries would try to make cover-up organizations, like guerilla rebels made out of (in this case) american people so that if they're caught it couldn't be liked back to them. If it works, good, if not, nobody would really care as long as the US is still on their side. If it isn't on their side, generally all the other major powers would shake hands and do the covert operations and guerilla warfare using american people.

[Deleted]

I can't imagine this happening, but if it did, both Russia and China might try and vie for popularity and condemnation of the USA to see if they can gain authority in the UN. The USA still partly operates in the UN on the principle of standing up for justice and order, whereas China specifically is often trying to defend it's human rights records in Tibet.

[Xilurm]

We have no right to invade other countries when they commit genocide. Other countries would have no right to invade the US if we committed genocide.

I guess the difference between us and the rest of the world is that we think we're above the law, and we can do whatever we want to whoever we want.

And that is exactly where I loose faith in humanity. Nice to turn a blind eye to your own race? Imagine what happens next...

[Catta]

There's a lot more than 10 million retards here.

The rest of the world would look on. Europe would frown, but they don't have the cohones to intervene. I can't necessarily blame them, it would be almost certain suicide.

The US doesnt have the cohones to intervene in North Korea. Its pretty simple - they are protected by China and China has nukes.
When a country gets nuclear weapons they are usually not invaded anymore... So the US would probably be safe from overt military action but subjected to covert ones.

[PizzaSHARK]

This is very unlikely to happen but stick with me.

What would the world do if a nuclear armed and influential country, we will use the U.S. as an example, began committing mass genocide against its own people? Lets say the United States began rounding up people with birth defects and mental illnesses and began systematically exterminating them. Obviously this would create a massive outrage in the worldwide public and in a non-nuclear armed state would instantly be grounds for a U.N. talk of invasion, but nuclear arms changes the game. If the U.S. began exterminating its own citizens, would a foreign nation really invade to try and put an end to it? Sanctions I'm sure would come to play but the U.S. has a global military presence and their economy affects the entire world in a profound way.

So my question specifically is as follows: What do you think the countries of the world would do if a nuclear armed and influential country began massacring its own people? Do you think countries would risk an invasion of a nuclear armed state even though the genocide doesn't really affect their well-being? Would the world try to sever the country economically even if it hurts their own countries? Feel free to focus on if the U.S. was committing the genocide, and lets assume the persecution saw the execution of an upwards of 10+ million people and is still continuing.

What, you never heard about the westward expansion? We basically ethnically cleansed the west. Most white folks didn't even consider the Native-Americans to be people, even the folks we generally revere like Teddy Roosevelt thought that.

We've already committed genocide, bud.

[WarFalcon1]

They already did commit genocidal acts in the past
And during WW2:

I can't count this one as genocide. Unless you say every major power in the war that employed carpet bombing on major cities also committed genocide.

[Deleted]

Indians says hello.

[Kryos]

I can't count this one as genocide. Unless you say every major power in the war that employed carpet bombing on major cities also committed genocide.

If you kill civilians without with no reason but to kill humans on the enemy side you are acting genocidal. You don't try to stop enemy forces, you just annihilate humans that happen to be born in a different country than yours to decimate them and show your power to everybody.

[Aftonflickan]

They already have committed genocide several times in the past =P
Vietnam, World War II, Afghanistan, Operation Desert Storm, Yugoslavia involvement....
The list goes on, depending on how far back you want to count.
They'd deal with it the same way they always have, complete avoidance of evidence and when confronted they'd claim it was an "unfortunate mishap"

[WarFalcon1]

If you kill civilians without with no reason but to kill humans on the enemy side you are acting genocidal. You don't try to stop enemy forces, you just annihilate humans that happen to be born in a different country than yours to decimate them and show your your power to everybody.

So you agree that all the major powers were acting genocidal. OK, I can see your point.