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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by killerlee View Post
    ANYTHING is possible
    No, it isn't.

    For instance, it's apparently impossible for you to formulate a valid argument.

    Infracted: Please refrain from personal attacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadvolcanoes View Post
    Because believing in things with no scientific basis is dumb.
    Well... that statement is just what you claim at the end..
    If that was the case we wouldn't have science at all. Our progress lies entirely on the fact that we are not satisfied with only what has a scientific (science is a rather modern term btw.) basis. We always believed in making the seemingly impossible possible.
    So it's therefore safe to say that rejecting anything that has no scientific basis (just yet) is the rather dumb way, in regards of mankind's progress as a whole.

    As for US going faster than the speed of light.. No living being on Earth could survive a speed anywhere close to speed of light. Let alone at the same, or even above.
    The only way to go "faster" would be to trick the distances, by creating a short cut through space and time. And for that, we still try to figure that out entirely.
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  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by killerlee View Post
    People used to think the world was flat, or that you could never fly, or that treating certain diseases was impossible, or that flying into outer space was impossible. ANYTHING is possible, open up your tiny little mind.

    If I took a car or a cell phone or a lighter into the medival times, first thing they would prolly kill me but they would think its magic, why? Because they didnt understand it.
    I'm going to be the President of the U.S. next week, and I will repeal the Speed of Light, the Second Law of Thermodynamics, and Evolution. I will also make pancakes mandatory and free on all domestic flights.

    Anything is possible.
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    There are no 2 species that are 100% identical.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redditor
    can you leftist twits just fucking admit that quantum mechanics has fuck all to do with thermodynamics, that shit is just a pose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    No, it isn't.

    For instance, it's apparently impossible for you to formulate a valid argument.
    He wants to believe.

  5. #45
    If we voted to increase the speed of light, we could be going even faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killerlee View Post
    People used to think the world was flat, or that you could never fly, or that treating certain diseases was impossible, or that flying into outer space was impossible. ANYTHING is possible, open up your tiny little mind.

    If I took a car or a cell phone or a lighter into the medival times, first thing they would prolly kill me but they would think its magic, why? Because they didnt understand it.
    You don't really get the point. No mass can travel faster then the speed of light, because the faster you go the more mass you gain, when objects get near the speed of light their mass is close to infinity thus requiring near infinite energy to maintain said speed. We are as certain about this as that we are certain that when you trow something in the air, it will fall back on earth.

    This does not mean faster then light travel is impossible, I suggest you read up on warp drive.

  7. #47
    If you believe anything is possible, amputate your left arm. Hope, wish, pray, and meditate for it to regrow. Then at the end of your life realize as you die with one limb that not only is everything not possible, but more likely most things are not possible.


    Quote Originally Posted by Shop Ebay View Post
    If we voted to increase the speed of light, we could be going even faster.
    Republicans would filibuster it.

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Garnier Fructis View Post
    You shouldn't take that as free license to attack parts of modern science willy nilly.
    As far as I can see it, none does in this thread. For a serious (non-willy nilly) attack on lightspeed would include a new theory, supported by repeatable tests etc.

    People that write that any theory, including the one of e=mc^2, can be proven wrong and replace by a better theory are right. But that observation is without substance till that theory has arrived. Until then we can make up all the fiction we want, write, dream, and believe in whatever we want - those seriously involved in this kind of physics like researchers, space vehicle builders etc. will focus on what is currently known to work .

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    Quote Originally Posted by killerlee View Post
    This really perplexes me sometimes. Why does EVERYONE assume and think that the speed of light is the fastest speed we can go? Just cause we havent discovered how to or understand the science behind it doesnt mean that the speed of light is the fastest and ONLY way we can go.
    The general publics insight into science hasn't gone past the ideas of FTL travel and such.

    There are other ideas of how to travel vast distances of space yes, but they are only known and talked about by people that are interested in it.

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    It's a theoretical limit. As in, based on what we understand right now (the theory of special relativity), that's how fast anything can go (not just 'us').

    Our view can and will be changed when something comes along to make that a reasonable hypothesis and eventual theory.

    That doesn't mean in the meantime we should just go "Anything might be able to do anything, so why bother discussing the specifics". We can still model and discuss and theorize based on how it's been shown/understood to work currently.

    Edit: And yes, my post is simplified. /dealwithit.

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    If you believe anything is possible, amputate your left arm. Hope, wish, pray, and meditate for it to regrow. Then at the end of your life realize as you die with one limb that not only is everything not possible, but more likely most things are not possible.
    Actually....there has been some advancements in the medical field that suggest otherwise
    With assistance of genes of course!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shop Ebay View Post
    If we voted to increase the speed of light, we could be going even faster.
    This reminds me of a Futurama episode where the professor explains his spacecraft.
    "Nothing can go faster then the speed of light!"
    "Indeed! Thats why scientists increased the speed of light!"

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Neazy View Post
    1) Your post makes no sense
    2) You just spelled energy with an I multiple times

    Stop now.
    It makes no sense because it is not understood yet.. most knowledge is relative.

    And yes, I can see that spelling errors makes my point total worthless.

  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by sulfuric View Post
    If you believe anything is possible, amputate your left arm. Hope, wish, pray, and meditate for it to regrow. Then at the end of your life realize as you die with one limb that not only is everything not possible, but more likely most things are not possible.
    Your example would fail the moment regeneration would be possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sulfuric View Post
    If you believe anything is possible, amputate your left arm. Hope, wish, pray, and meditate for it to regrow. Then at the end of your life realize as you die with one limb that not only is everything not possible, but more likely most things are not possible.




    Republicans would filibuster it.
    Yeah. It's just as likely that something is unlikely as it is likely or infact more likely to not be likely even though the likelihood of it being likely might excist.

  16. #56
    wormholes will let you travel faster than light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeavline View Post
    Actually....there has been some advancements in the medical field that suggest otherwise
    With assistance of genes of course!
    Actually, I read about a successfull hand surgery today in Britain. Some guy got a new hand from someone that didn't need theirs anymore, and he could move the fingers in the hand but didn't have any sensation in it yet.

    Bionic arms and legs are a reality nowadays. I saw a video on youtube about a woman that had no arms and legs, that had gotten some robotic arm connected to her brain. She could control it very well. She fed herself a bar of chocolate with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metallikiddd View Post
    wormholes will let you travel faster than light.
    Yes, but they would not violate the condition that nothing moves faster than light.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zantos View Post
    There are no 2 species that are 100% identical.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redditor
    can you leftist twits just fucking admit that quantum mechanics has fuck all to do with thermodynamics, that shit is just a pose?

  19. #59
    There is a direct connection between spacetime, C and the cause-effect connection of the Universe. Due to that, you can't travel faster than light regardless of the method. Otherwise you can observe the effect of an action before the action happened.
    Even if there was some way to travel 100 million light years by a wormhole, a mechanism must be in place to protect causality, which means that time will be so distorted in the wormhole that you will appear on the other end 100 million years later. To you it will look like you traveled 100 million light years in a second, but that won't be the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haxartus View Post
    There is a direct connection between spacetime, C and the cause-effect connection of the Universe. Due to that you can't travel faster than light regardless of the method. Even if there was some way to travel 100 million light years by a wormhole, a mechanism must be in place to protect causality, which means that time will be so distorted in the wormhole that you will appear on the other end 100 million years later. To you it will look like you traveled 100 million light years in a second, but that won't be the case.
    Yet to be complete you need to add that the above is according to current theories, likely (I am no physicist) tested. A new theory based on right now unknown new insights could change this story.

    (And sorry for picking *your* post for this remark - it is one that can be added to a lot of posts in this thread).

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