Warlock professions 5.2+

[Regen]

Basically what the title says, what're the best professions for now and moving forward? I can imagine engineering to be strong still since you can control when you use it, which is always a perk, but what about the others?

Static bonus professions will always remain the same of course, but how is tailoring now that they're shifting to RPPM trinkets? I know it used to be a great profession because you could be fairly certain that your trinkets and tailoring enchant would all proc on the pull giving you a nice solid boost at the start, but how about now? Especially for affliction I can imagine it's value has gone down some for times like refreshing dots when an int trinket procs and not when tailoring does, or something like that.

I'm asking mostly from a PvE perspective but I would like to dabble in some PvP when I max my warlock. I've got engineering already and fully intend to keep that but was wondering is something like enchanting or alchy (love the ease of gameplay having those on a toon you're always on) or is tailoring going to have a bigger impact overall? Gold to level/save having one over the other doesn't matter too much, but if it seems to be a big factor feel free to include it.

Cheers,
Regen.

[Gremory1]

Basically what the title says, what're the best professions for now and moving forward? I can imagine engineering to be strong still since you can control when you use it, which is always a perk, but what about the others?

Static bonus professions will always remain the same of course, but how is tailoring now that they're shifting to RPPM trinkets? I know it used to be a great profession because you could be fairly certain that your trinkets and tailoring enchant would all proc on the pull giving you a nice solid boost at the start, but how about now? Especially for affliction I can imagine it's value has gone down some for times like refreshing dots when an int trinket procs and not when tailoring does, or something like that.

I'm asking mostly from a PvE perspective but I would like to dabble in some PvP when I max my warlock. I've got engineering already and fully intend to keep that but was wondering is something like enchanting or alchy (love the ease of gameplay having those on a toon you're always on) or is tailoring going to have a bigger impact overall? Gold to level/save having one over the other doesn't matter too much, but if it seems to be a big factor feel free to include it.

Cheers,
Regen.

Despite the switch to a RPPM trinket system, your trinkets still almost always proc on the pull.

[Ravoks]

If you are playing Horde and running Troll Lock, that is best paired with having Herbalism if I'm not mistaken especially for this tier since you also benefit from the DPS increase racial.

[Regen]

Despite the switch to a RPPM trinket system, your trinkets still almost always proc on the pull.

Any proof? Everything I've read has been to quite the contrary, with some reports saying/showing some ToT trinkets not proccing until a minute or two into the fight.

If this is true, though, does that still make tailoring one of the best?

If you are playing Horde and running Troll Lock, that is best paired with having Herbalism if I'm not mistaken especially for this tier since you also benefit from the DPS increase racial.

Undead lock.

[ati87]

Any proof? Everything I've read has been to quite the contrary, with some reports saying/showing some ToT trinkets not proccing until a minute or two into the fight.

If this is true, though, does that still make tailoring one of the best?

As destruction main spec I wish my Hydra trinket took a at least 30 secs till it procs but unfortunately it does proc at pull or just a few seconds after.

My only beef with the new system is that sometimes my buffs procs again before the old one has expired losing in essence dps since I still had few seconds left on the buff.


Personally I have enchanting/tailoring since both of them have always been good for locks and I don't think that will ever change.

[Deleted]

GC pointed out that the longer you are out of combat/the longer time since last time your rppm trinket proced the bigger chance will it have to proc. ExtraCD shows a nice timer on this.

Tailoring/Engineering are the best (dot class) DPS professions right now.

Tailoring procs together with RPPM trinkets almost every start of a fight.
Engineering can be used to boost forexample UVOLS when it procs, use engineering enchant just before u reapply dots. works great for demo.

[ykza]

To smooth out RPPM, they made the trinkets have an higher chance to proc, the longer they go without procing. That means that after a proc just ocurred, your trinket has 1% chance to proc and after 30 secs without proccing it has a 30% chance to proc on each spell (made up numbers of course). So if you wait like a minute between each fight, it'll prolly proc on the pull. Those claims you hear were before they intrudoced the smoothed out RPPM system

[Deleted]

To smooth out RPPM, they made the trinkets have an higher chance to proc, the longer they go without procing. That means that after a proc just ocurred, your trinket has 1% chance to proc and after 30 secs without proccing it has a 30% chance to proc on each spell (made up numbers of course). So if you wait like a minute between each fight, it'll prolly proc on the pull. Those claims you hear were before they intrudoced the smoothed out RPPM system

Do take in mind that the procs doesnt rely on the amount of spells you cast, but the amount of haste you have. Spells only matters when the RPPM system decides that you should have a proc, the proc wont go off without spell damage, but the amount of spells you cast is irrelevant.

Hope it made sence xD

[Alarinth]

GC pointed out that the longer you are out of combat/the longer time since last time your rppm trinket proced the bigger chance will it have to proc. ExtraCD shows a nice timer on this.

Apparently this caps at a 1600% increased likelihood after 1 minute of your last combat event.


(the source for the timer is a tweet I made to GC which he replied to, the 1600% I can't remember where I saw but it was from a credible site/player)

[Heckadots]

Im fairly certain that the UVOLS is uneffected by the combat/bad streak increase.... I have extra cd addon and watch my other RPPM trinkets count up and almost 100% proc on openers, but my UVOLS is a crap shoot which is really freaking depressing as a demo lock.

[Alarinth]

Im fairly certain that the UVOLS is uneffected by the combat/bad streak increase.... I have extra cd addon and watch my other RPPM trinkets count up and almost 100% proc on openers, but my UVOLS is a crap shoot which is really freaking depressing as a demo lock.

Really? I find that mine almost always procs on the pull, and I only have the 522 ilvl version.

[Werst]

I have the 528 UVLS....About 2/3 to 3/4 of the time I get a proc in the first 15 seconds but sometimes even after being out of combat for a long runback, buff up, eat, etc I still don't see procs till 90+ sec into a fight. Its just the RNG of things. Then again I might get a proc just as tears of the sun happens or something letting me get another 100% crit doom rolling so you take the good w' the bad.

I just can't quite bring myself to do the herbalism thing for a profession despite what sims say about it. Engineering is the only controlled burst out there. BS is good for stacking secondary stats. Suppose you could use herbalism with aff moreso than demo. Or some kind of imp master build stacking haste buffs for using the glyph 2x per darksoul.

[Regen]

So it is still engi > tailoring > everything else.

How about for pvp? Would a static increase be better than an uncontrolled burst in stats?

[Ailerist]

As destruction main spec I wish my Hydra trinket took a at least 30 secs till it procs but unfortunately it does proc at pull or just a few seconds after.

My only beef with the new system is that sometimes my buffs procs again before the old one has expired losing in essence dps since I still had few seconds left on the buff.


Personally I have enchanting/tailoring since both of them have always been good for locks and I don't think that will ever change.

If your looking to prevent ur trinkets from proccing at least 30 seconds after u pull simply unequip them and put them back on during ur pull timer. This will delay their ability to proc and often times make it so that both proc at the same time. I used this as a aff lock for shado pan assault and haste trinket from Toes.

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Atm I run with engineering/jewelcrafting. However, I've been debating for quite some time getting rid of jewelcrafting and going tailoring. I feel the extra proc is better then the static because chances are it lines up with jade spirit and other trinkets. You can also pop synapse with it to give quite a mini burst if u have no trinket procs. Plus, even though the static on paper does the same as the proc, this doesnt take into account % damage bonus's on zone encounters as well as lust/hero

[Regen]

Herbalism would feel way too weird. It's just...odd. I'll probably end up rolling alchemy or tailoring, I guess my biggest worry was if tailoring was still as OP as it is.

Also @ trinket procs, you guys better not let the hunters hear you. They've got a 55+ page thread on these RPPM trinkets being awful.

[Gremory1]

Herbalism would feel way too weird. It's just...odd. I'll probably end up rolling alchemy or tailoring, I guess my biggest worry was if tailoring was still as OP as it is.

Also @ trinket procs, you guys better not let the hunters hear you. They've got a 55+ page thread on these RPPM trinkets being awful.

Hunters are required to complain at least once per week. If they fall too far under threshold they are required to class switch.

[k4sh1m]

Since someone already raised this, is it worth switching from enchanting to engineering for better burst control?
I am a worgen warlock, currently running with tailoring + enchanting.

[Regen]

Since someone already raised this, is it worth switching from enchanting to engineering for better burst control?
I am a worgen warlock, currently running with tailoring + enchanting.

Engineering is always considered "slightly" better than other professions because of it's ability to sync with cooldowns. Using it with your first dark soul gives you an extra 2k int during your burst CD, use it again on CD, then it's up again for your CD. Another time engineering is good is when you don't have 100% uptime on the boss, you can leave Engi on CD and not be "wasting" your stats. Also, burst phases/high damage phases it's the clear winner. End of horridon/puddles on jinrohk come to mind from an LFR hero.

[Surutcra]

Engineering + Herbalism is probably best with DS back on a 2'00 CD and the natural relative strengthening of secondary stats as gear improves.

[Shiekyerbooty]

herbalism hmm