Snowden Leaks To Reveal NSA's 'Central Role In The US Assassination Program'

[katsung47]

Snowden Leaks To Reveal NSA's 'Central Role In The US Assassination Program'

By Michael Kelley | Business Insider 10/5/2013
We know a bit about the NSA's connection to America's global capture/kill machine already.

In the 2010 report " Top secret America ," Dana Priest and Will Arkin of The Washington Post reported that the NSA provided the capture/kill squads of Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) with a huge advantage after the signals intelligence agency "learned to locate all electronic signals in Iraq."

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/snowde...131900670.html

It sounds like a Mafia country.

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Reveal them for what they are. Good for you guys. I hope you turn your country on it's head. Someday, that is.

[TheGravemind]

So what? The NSA helped JSOC locate all of the murderous insurgents in Iraq during the Second Gulf War and eliminate them with extreme prejudice. Why is this a bad thing at all, and more importantly, how does this make the United States a "mafia country"?

[Tierbook]

ehh? Is this about how Navy seals go out and kill terrorist leaders hiding out in neutral countries? If so i'm not sure how this is all that bad just the other day they kill the leader of that group that attacked that mall in Kenya

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So what? The NSA helped JSOC locate all of the murderous insurgents in Iraq during the Second Gulf War and eliminate them with extreme prejudice. Why is this a bad thing at all, and more importantly, how does this make the United States a "mafia country"?

What makes you so sure they won't use these techniques against your own? Don't be so ignorant.

[Tierbook]

What makes you so sure they won't use these techniques against your own? Don't be so ignorant.

slippery slopes are the best slopes

[TheGravemind]

What makes you so sure they won't use these techniques against your own? Don't be so ignorant.

The Third Amendment to the Constitution of the United States makes me pretty sure that Americans have nothing to worry about. The slippery slope fallacy would also like to have a word with you.

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The Third Amendment to the Constitution of the United States makes me pretty sure that Americans have nothing to worry about. The slippery slope fallacy would also like to have a word with you.

As far as I remember, your precious government have no issues with finding loop-holes or blatantly ignoring the constitutional rights of your people.

*Edit* Didn't Snowden reveal that Uncle Sam was spying on their own people? I think it's set in stone already. Constitutional rights? Yeah, like ... a few decades ago, sure. Now? Neh.

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I'm still dodgy what comes out of peoples mouth, hard proof is rarely used...

[Tierbook]

As far as I remember, your precious government have no issues with finding loop-holes or blatantly ignoring the constitutional rights of your people.

France kicked all the Gypsies out of the country, whats to stop them from kicking all other groups that aren't pure French out of the country?

[Olo]

Um, the US assassination program has been out in the open for a long time now. It's also common knowledge that SIGNIT plays an important part in their efforts.

[Machismo]

Except there was apparently no outside oversight. Without oversight, how are you supposed to trust that what they are doing is above board? This is also ignoring the fact that it very likely went against ratified treaties, as well as violated SOFA agreements with sovereign nations. Other than the crimes against humanity and the war crimes, I'm sure we can trust the government not to do anything illegal/immoral.

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Um, the US assassination program has been out in the open for a long time now. It's also common knowledge that SIGNIT plays an important part in their efforts.

The real issue would be the lack of oversight with the specific program. It looks like they were overstepping their defined roles. Of course, that is nothing new.

[mortauk]

What makes you so sure they won't use these techniques against your own? Don't be so ignorant.

Ignorance is thinking not all countries do things like this!

[Olo]

The real issue would be the lack of oversight with the specific program. It looks like they were overstepping their defined roles. Of course, that is nothing new.

How is the NSA providing SIGNIT to the US military overstepping their role? That is literally their job description.

[Tierbook]

Except there was apparently no outside oversight. Without oversight, how are you supposed to trust that what they are doing is above board? This is also ignoring the fact that it very likely went against ratified treaties, as well as violated SOFA agreements with sovereign nations. Other than the crimes against humanity and the war crimes, I'm sure we can trust the government not to do anything illegal/immoral.

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The real issue would be the lack of oversight with the specific program. It looks like they were overstepping their defined roles. Of course, that is nothing new.

assuming it was straight up military its a safe bet that they had a bit of oversight its groups like the CIA and FBI that have a bit less oversight

[DEATHETERNAL]

Sounds like a good thing.

[Machismo]

How is the NSA providing SIGNIT to the US military overstepping their role? That is literally their job description.

And if they didn't have proper oversight (which Snowden showed that they definitely did not), then they are overstepping their role. If the intelligence is used in violation of treaties or SOFA agreements, then there is obviously not proper oversight. It's not a question of IF we've broken the agreements, as there are documented instances of it. The real question is HOW MANY times it has happened.

[Tastyfish]

For a contractor, Snowden def seems to not only, "know", but have an opinion on everything.

[Tierbook]

For a contractor, Snowden def seems to not only, "know", but have an opinion on everything.

which reminds me, didn't russia allow him to stay on the stipulation that he stops posting stuff? Seems like Russia has been angry that they aren't in the news as much anymore between this and Greenpeace.....

[Olo]

And if they didn't have proper oversight (which Snowden showed that they definitely did not), then they are overstepping their role. If the intelligence is used in violation of treaties or SOFA agreements, then there is obviously not proper oversight. It's not a question of IF we've broken the agreements, as there are documented instances of it. The real question is HOW MANY times it has happened.

If raids were carried out in violation of any agreement that's on the white house who approves them and JSOC who runs them. The NSA providing intell is them doing their job.