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    A victim murders a bully, does he deserve to be punished harshly?

    Title didn't fit entirely. So basically, if there was an unfortunate student who was reserved to himself/herself, and there was this bully or jock who constantly tormented this student without rest, and despite the victim trying to stand up for himself or get help from school staff, nothing changes, and it progessively gets far worse. One day, the victim finally snaps, then murders his tormentor upon it happening again. Then right then and there, the school staff that had ignored him and enjoyed their lunches, finally persecute the victim instead of the now deceased bully.

    Does the victim deserve a harsh punishment from a judge later on, or do you think they should be let off with light punishment?
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    Sure there should be a lighter punishment. The victim should make a temporary insanity case. Which is well deserved, considering the circumstances. Not only would the sentence be reduced, but there would be more attention for the victim's mental health.

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    No, Its still a crime despite circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeekphreak View Post
    No, Its still a crime despite circumstances.
    Even though I'd give the bullied kid a medal, i agree with zeek

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    Him being tormented could be brought up for a lighter punishment, but he still murdered someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stir View Post
    The victim should make a temporary insanity case.
    This would most likely apply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Pearl View Post
    Him being tormented could be brought up for a lighter punishment, but he still murdered someone.
    But he murdered a monster. So still not justified? That bully could have grown up to be a drug dealer or worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Pearl View Post
    Him being tormented could be brought up for a lighter punishment, but he still murdered someone.
    Pretty much this. It would be a mitigating factor in the sentencing. Does not justify the crime.

    Let's all ride the Gish gallop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salandrin View Post
    But he murdered a monster. So still not justified? That bully could have grown up to be a drug dealer or worse.
    Humans aren't monsters. They can be dicks, asshats, or psychopathic maniacs, but they're still human.
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    It would also depend on the situation though wouldn't it? Recall an incident some year ago when a bullied kid was afraid to stay on the buss so he got off some stop earlier than where he intended to go, and the bully and his friend(s) did the same, the bullied kid ended up stabbing the bully who I think died, and the bullied kid got off entirely without punishment because the bully actively sought him out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salandrin View Post
    But he murdered a monster. So still not justified? That bully could have grown up to be a drug dealer or worse.
    Or he could have grown up to be an environmental Engineer, who's to say.

    Anyway, agree with Black Pearl and Stir. It would give him a lighter punishment but not no punishment, although depending on the circumstances and the area he is in, it's possible he could argue self defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnCorpse View Post
    literately Stalin.
    Really?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salandrin View Post
    But he murdered a monster. So still not justified? That bully could have grown up to be a drug dealer or worse.
    The bully also could have grown up to be a Buddhist monk. You don't have the right to kill someone unless they physically threaten your life at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salandrin View Post
    But he murdered a monster. So still not justified? That bully could have grown up to be a drug dealer or worse.
    This is quite a bold and presumptuous assumption, don't you think?
    And even if this was the case, still not legit to kill him, lol. A monster? Please...

    Anyway, like it has been said, he would receive a lighter punishment and I think it would be fair.

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    It would be in self-defense, totally justified.
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    This sadly happens often, I was being bullied and was always told to tell an adult, but the adults never rescued me, I suffered for a long time because of it.

    To think I could have been in this situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salandrin View Post
    But he murdered a monster. So still not justified? That bully could have grown up to be a drug dealer or worse.
    That's not the way the world works though. If we had the right to murder every 'bad' person in this world the human race would quickly go extinct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnCorpse View Post
    Unless its personal defense, he deserves the same punishment as any other murderer.
    Murder is worse than bullying, and people justifying murder are literately Stalin.
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