Raidbots.com is incorrect

[Savedwow]

Ok now go to WoL and find that THESE TOP parses are by asian steroid users. I am right.

I emailed the owner of raidbots and he said he has no desire to filter out asian vs NA results. Took him 3+ months to reply to that mail, too lol

[mmokri]

Good alternative is required.

[britishbubba]

Alternatives are good, but the entire premise of your thread being that raidbots is wrong... is wrong. It gives you what you tell it to give you.

not even sure why it matters. All raid bots shows you is what class is best at padding on any particular fight, so who cares if asia is included in the pad fest?

[Kalmah]

Alternatives are good, but the entire premise of your thread being that raidbots is wrong... is wrong. It gives you what you tell it to give you.

not even sure why it matters. All raid bots shows you is what class is best at padding on any particular fight, so who cares if asia is included in the pad fest?

Explain how you "pad" on iron juggernaut, malkorok, thok.

[britishbubba]

Explain how you "pad" on iron juggernaut, malkorok, thok.

you don't unless you count being told "you don't get to do mechanics today, have fun" as padding (which is only relevant on malkorok). Every other fight is going to have padding on it though. Top parse on norushen? Arcane mage soloing the adds with nether tempest.

[mmokri]

Soloing? He did 80% damage to norushen. Its ~586ilvl best mage spec.

[britishbubba]

Soloing? He did 80% damage to norushen. Its ~586ilvl best mage spec.

They did 15M more dmg to the adds than the next person @ 20% of the raids overall damage done to them. So yeah, not exactly soloing but I seriously doubt that the adds were dying as fast as they usually do. Hard to tell exactly as I don't speak whatever language the logs are in.

It's padding to get a higher number than would usually show up in that raid encounter.

[Deleted]

you don't unless you count being told "you don't get to do mechanics today, have fun" as padding (which is only relevant on malkorok). Every other fight is going to have padding on it though. Top parse on norushen? Arcane mage soloing the adds with nether tempest.

Thok definitely has a lot of padding involved along with juggernaut for some specs: thinking vengeance for tanks/druids. Also count staying in during phase 2, which few guilds did for first kill.

[Deleted]

Why do so many people seem to hate RaidBots on these forums?

because they are not performing like the numbers say they should.

[denstyrka]

because they are not performing like the numbers say they should.

Except the numbers aren't saying that.

[Slant]

Except the numbers aren't saying that.

They do, if the player sucks and can't match the numbers from Raidbots. It's kind of a depressing realization for some and so they rather say Raidbots is wrong.

[mmokri]

You are not going to 'match the numbers' with Korean partner +8ilvl, two resets per week.

[Inthislzon]

Noone intends to "match the numbers" of 95+ percentile, but not hitting even 30 IS depressing, especially if you think you are god's gift to raiding, as tons of people seem to think they are.

Koreans included or not, the average player, by definition, can and should hit >40 percentile on any given fight, provided they play properly and don't get shafted with mechanics.

The realization that they do not is what makes these threads pop

[Annoying]

Noone intends to "match the numbers" of 95+ percentile, but not hitting even 30 IS depressing, especially if you think you are god's gift to raiding, as tons of people seem to think they are.

Koreans included or not, the average player, by definition, can and should hit >40 percentile on any given fight, provided they play properly and don't get shafted with mechanics.

The realization that they do not is what makes these threads pop

Don't forget cheese strats... I have plenty of fights where I get 80+ percentile, and a few where I get ~10 because our strat is a cheese and we never drop to two healers.

[Deleted]

Noone intends to "match the numbers" of 95+ percentile, but not hitting even 30 IS depressing, especially if you think you are god's gift to raiding, as tons of people seem to think they are.

Of course people do. If you are in the 95th+ percentile you try to match it. Back in T15 my median percentile was 98th, I was disappointed in myself if I got below 95th on a fight, and not truely happy unless it was 99-100th.

People will always try to match the percentile where they feel home.