Hunters ARE a magic class. Focus makes no sense.

[want my Slimjim]

Their shots and traps are powered by magic, they shoot magical projectiles or explosions which is powered by magic. ( arcane shot, explosive shot, cobra shot, black arrow, all magic in lore) eve their traps are powered by magic. they do it on their own. Concussive Shot, serpent sting, scatter shot, are powered by magic. meaning it takes mana to power those things. hunters are a magic based class because they use magic to power their shots on their own. same with mend and reviving pets also magic. bandaging up your pets while they are getting hack and slashed makes no sense it can only be magic. So it makes sense that they use mana over focus. using focus doesn't make it feel like a hunter but an ADHD fanatic that's having a hard time managing his focus over his enemies,

Hunter: GUYS GUYS I GOT THIS ONE gonna kill that monk!!!

Hunter: CRAP IM ALMOST OUT OF FOCUS ALREADY!!!11

(runs out of focus, chases butterfly)



Hunter: uh, so what were we doing again?

(gets killed)

And of course mana Is a lot better than focus in game, but that's saved for another discussion.

[checking facts]

they use magic tools, but they aren't wizards themselves. the arrow is magic, the hunter isn't. in fact, all classes use magic. a warrior's axe is enchanted, after all.

[Zka]

Is this your 3rd topic on the subject or what? How about stopping this crap?

[Glurp]

Since when did having Focus as a resource mean attacks aren't magic based? You should probably stop making 20 threads a week about mana because no one (aside from yourself) actually cares. Also if you want anyone to agree with you then you should at least try to put together full sentences and not just ramble on about shit because no one understands what you're trying to say.

[Tzalix]

In similar ways to a Warrior, a Hunters abilities are powered by various magic tools, but they are still based on physical damage.

[want my Slimjim]

they use magic tools, but they aren't wizards themselves. the arrow is magic, the hunter isn't. in fact, all classes use magic. a warrior's axe is enchanted, after all.

with an enchantment it is but hunter already use it even with out enchantments every shot we make uses magic powered by us.

[Funky Kong]

The blinding nostalgia is strong with this one.

[XDurionX]

Mana sucked big time. Running out of focus decreases you´re dps, running out of mana makes you utter useless. If you think the latter ist better, you have no clue whatsoever.

[Damax]

Yes in fact hunters are so much into magic that they can totally ignore mana so blizzard took the bar out. however they quickly realised that huntards couldn't focus forever which caused them to fizzle their spell despite having enough mana. now you can manage your focus so you don't miscast your spells...

[traen]

Using focus as resource does not mean that you are not casting magic. You still do, but mana is unlimited as long as you are focused enough

[Aeluron Lightsong]

This is a dead horse.

[Tehterokkar]

What? Stop looking for logic in a video game, especially in one that mails you dragons. By your logic Rogues, Monks and Feral druids should faint when they reach 0 Energy and Warriors/Guardian Druids would lose control of themselves completely when they reach 100 Rage(Like a Mind control).

Also Mana sucks, go back to your hole, troll.

[Aldarana]

Please stop with theses posts, you have made your point about hunters and mana. Posting over and over again just makes more flames wars that are a waste of space on the forums as they contribute nothing new to the discussion about the hunter class and it mechanics.

[Bullettime]

with an enchantment it is but hunter already use it even with out enchantments every shot we make uses magic powered by us.

We aren't supposed to be magical. Arcane magic that we use with Arcane Shot is a relic and even got a response by Celestalon on Twitter that it's on the chopping block. Expect to see spec based nonmagical filler shots when the beta hits.

The only "magic" we'll have left is our ice based traps as Snake Trap and Explosive Trap fall under the resourceful survivalist category making traps and improvised explosives out of your surroundings. And if they really wanted to, they could turn Freezing Trap into Bear Trap, Ice Trap into Oil or Tar Trap, and Black Arrow into Noxious Arrow and have the same effect but fit the direction they're going with the class.

Beast Mastery even is a spiritual connection to the beasts, not a magical one.

[want my Slimjim]

This is a dead horse.

no its a starting crusade to revive it and make blizz be aware of this contradiction in hopes that they bring back mana.

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We aren't supposed to be magical. Arcane magic that we use with Arcane Shot is a relic and even got a response by Celestalon on Twitter that it's on the chopping block. Expect to see spec based nonmagical filler shots when the beta hits.

The only "magic" we'll have left is our ice based traps as Snake Trap and Explosive Trap fall under the resourceful survivalist category making traps and improvised explosives out of your surroundings. And if they really wanted to, they could turn Freezing Trap into Bear Trap, Ice Trap into Oil or Tar Trap, and Black Arrow into Noxious Arrow and have the same effect but fit the direction they're going with the class.

Beast Mastery even is a spiritual connection to the beasts, not a magical one.

how would it fit the direction it makes no sense its in the lore, and its lorebreaking what theyre doing.

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Please stop with theses posts, you have made your point about hunters and mana. Posting over and over again just makes more flames wars that are a waste of space on the forums as they contribute nothing new to the discussion about the hunter class and it mechanics.

this one is different than the other threads Ive made.

[Deleted]

Technically, Serpent Sting is an arrow coated in animal poison. Explosive Shot is simply an arrow with an explosive charge (a bomb specifically, which isn't remotely ''magical'' at all) attached to it. Even Explosive Trap has nothing to do with magic but again a bomb unrelated to magic.

That leaves us with Arcane Shot and Black Arrow. Calling Hunters magicians or wizards of some sort because of two abilities is a little silly.

[Hayro1]

LOL Hordeslayer is back again with his "mana was better!" nonsense. Quality thread.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

You were given evidence the last time. This thread is just spam at this point.

[Bullettime]

no its a starting crusade to revive it and make blizz be aware of this contradiction in hopes that they bring back mana.

You spam mana posts in like every thread and make a plethora of new threads every week that all get closed.

Mana isn't coming back. It's a relic that doesn't fit the direction of the class. Arcane Shot, the main magic skill, is going away, Beast Mastery isn't magical, and the few minor "magic" abilities we have left could simply be renamed.

Mana was a terrible system anyways. All you did was spam skills until you went oom, Viper for 20 seconds back to full mana while tanking your damage, then repeating until the boss was dead.

Technically, Serpent Sting is an arrow coated in animal poison. Explosive Shot is simply an arrow with an explosive charge (a bomb specifically, which isn't remotely ''magical'' at all) attached to it. Even Explosive Trap has nothing to do with magic but again a bomb unrelated to magic.

That leaves us with Arcane Shot and Black Arrow. Calling Hunters magicians or wizards of some sort because of two abilities is a little silly.

Exactly. Arcane Shot is likely gone given Celestalon's Twitter response and Black Arrow could simply be renamed Noxious Arrow and do poison damage. Suddenly, magic gone. Magic has always been a very minor part of the Hunter kit and they're systematically removing it in favor of making us skilled archers and marksman versus a magician with a bow.

[Nemesiz]

I believe the term; "Beating a dead horse", comes into play here...