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    The Debt and the destruction of the US dollar, I thought that one was quite obvious. That is if O care does not pull us into thee abyss first.

    Obama care has to be dealt with, it is probably one of the few things that getting rid of will can actually make a big difference in the health of all Americans, economy, etc.

    Of coarse by then who ever has to put up with the mess Obama gave them is going to have a real nice time getting out of it. By the time Obama gets out of office he will have doubled the national debt and crated more debt on failed programs than every president combined. Problem is Obama is not a real democrat. JFK > Obama x 1000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    I was going to say smug super leftists
    There's no such thing in American government, so I wouldn't be particularly concerned.
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Generalfrisk View Post
    Just.... Thread. President can't do crap BECAUSE of congress.


    LOL that has't stopped Mr Impeachable Obama from trouncing the Constitution and every Americans rights. Obama would rather burn the Constitution than actually read it. Of coarse John Boehner is just about as terrible. If Trey Gowdy every makes Speaker things will start to move in the right direction. That guy is sharp as a tac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkaneer View Post
    The Debt and the destruction of the US dollar, I thought that one was quite obvious. That is if O care does not pull us into thee abyss first.
    It might be a strange concept, but sovereign debt is not what you think it is. It is in no way equivalent to credit card debt.

    And the US dollar isn't being destroyed.

    Obama care has to be dealt with, it is probably one of the few things that getting rid of will can actually make a big difference in the health of all Americans, economy, etc.
    Certainly. As long as we replace it with universal healthcare.

    Of coarse by then who ever has to put up with the mess Obama gave them is going to have a real nice time getting out of it. By the time Obama gets out of office he will have doubled the national debt and crated more debt on failed programs than every president combined. Problem is Obama is not a real democrat. JFK > Obama x 1000.
    You mean the mess which was by and large started by the far right with their deregulation and crap foreign policy?
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    There's no such thing in American government, so I wouldn't be particularly concerned.
    You are correct. That would be smug super Communist. Aka today's Democrat's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkaneer View Post
    LOL that has't stopped Mr Impeachable Obama from trouncing the Constitution and every Americans rights. Obama would rather burn the Constitution than actually read it. Of coarse John Boehner is just about as terrible. If Trey Gowdy every makes Speaker things will start to move in the right direction. That guy is sharp as a tac.
    Please list what he has done that has been unconstitutional or breaching rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkaneer View Post
    You are correct. That would be smug super Communist. Aka today's Democrat's.
    1) Communist does not mean what you think it means. There are no communists in government.

    2) Democrats are right of centre, not left wing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Everything he sayeth and every thing he doth do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    It might be a strange concept, but sovereign debt is not what you think it is. It is in no way equivalent to credit card debt.

    And the US dollar isn't being destroyed.



    Certainly. As long as we replace it with universal healthcare.



    You mean the mess which was by and large started by the far right with their deregulation and crap foreign policy?

    Who do you think your fooling, but yourself. Russia is already trying to get out of the Dollar and was confirmed by this year that they tried to get China to drop the dollar and crash the currency. You can't print 80 billion dollars a month and say that's not going to do anything.... Of coarse when you remove food and gasoline from the inflation equation like Obama has you can manipulate. When the Treasury is buying it's own debt don't try to tell me it's not manipulating the currency.

    Bill was crashing the economy far before George took office, can't blame that on anyone but good old Dems. Only thing he ever did good was forced on him by republicans, balancing the budget a few times, which he fought against.

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    Make up for all the money wasted by obama not minding his own business.
    Eerrr.. i mean.... attacking other countries.
    Um... i mean....defending the american interest half a world away.

    Other than that, perhaps the next president will actually care about the american people and provide the necessary support inside the country instead of picking fights with every other small fry criminal group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkaneer View Post
    Who do you think your fooling, but yourself. Russia is already trying to get out of the Dollar and was confirmed by this year that they tried to get China to drop the dollar and crash the currency. You can't print 80 billion dollars a month and say that's not going to do anything.... Of coarse when you remove food and gasoline from the inflation equation like Obama has you can manipulate. When the Treasury is buying it's own debt don't try to tell me it's not manipulating the currency.

    Bill was crashing the economy far before George took office, can't blame that on anyone but good old Dems. Only thing he ever did good was forced on him by republicans, balancing the budget a few times, which he fought against.
    Have a citation for this or are you simply talking out of your ass?

    Fox News does not count as a legitimate citation either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkaneer View Post
    Who do you think your fooling, but yourself. Russia is already trying to get out of the Dollar and was confirmed by this year that they tried to get China to drop the dollar and crash the currency. You can't print 80 billion dollars a month and say that's not going to do anything.... Of coarse when you remove food and gasoline from the inflation equation like Obama has you can manipulate.
    They're trying to get out of it as a political gesture. It's unseemly for them to pick a fight with someone while still using their currency.

    When the Treasury is buying it's own debt don't try to tell me it's not manipulating the currency.
    The Federal Reserve is supposed to be manipulating the money supply by design.

    Bill was crashing the economy far before George took office, can't blame that on anyone but good old Dems. Only thing he ever did good was forced on him by republicans, balancing the budget a few times, which he fought against.
    I was referring to Reagan, not just Bush.

    And the budget was never 'balanced'. A government budget should never be balanced.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Please list what he has done that has been unconstitutional or breaching rights.

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    1) Communist does not mean what you think it means. There are no communists in government.

    2) Democrats are right of centre, not left wing.
    Ok your tolling, Dems are far left of center, have been trying to dismantle the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th amendments for over 5 years now. Libertarians are center, Democrats hanging snugly with the socialist and if they could they would do much worse. Tell me why Obama put a known terrorist in charge of education? A man who was part of a grp that says at least 20 million Americans will have to die for there ideology to be able to take hold.

    Oh communist does not mean what I think it does LOL... I know very well what it means and I can tell good enough you agree with the ideology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    Taking as many vacations as Obama did.
    Bush and reagan took way more vacations, imagine if obama did this


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    If Democrat it will be dealing with the Republicunts. If Republican putting cream cheese on a bagel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkaneer View Post
    Ok your tolling, Dems are far left of center, have been trying to dismantle the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th amendments for over 5 years now. Libertarians are center, Democrats hanging snugly with the socialist and if they could they would do much worse. Tell me why Obama put a known terrorist in charge of education? A man who was part of a grp that says at least 20 million Americans will have to die for there ideology to be able to take hold.

    Oh communist does not mean what I think it does LOL... I know very well what it means and I can tell good enough you agree with the ideology.
    Libertarians are Center? ROFL - Do you know what the Tea Party is made up of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    There's no such thing in American government, so I wouldn't be particularly concerned.


    Awww, dont be sad, we always have you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkaneer View Post
    Ok your tolling, Dems are far left of center,
    Not by any sane political spectrum, they aren't.

    have been trying to dismantle the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th amendments for over 5 years now.
    They've been trying to billet soldiers in private homes without the owner's consent? News to me.

    Libertarians are center
    Libertarians are right wing, actually. They happen to fall on the non-authoritarian side of the right wing, in opposition to anarchists on the left.

    Democrats hanging snugly with the socialist and if they could they would do much worse.
    The Democrats are not socialist and have not resembled as such since Johnson.

    Tell me why Obama put a known terrorist in charge of education? A man who was part of a grp that says at least 20 million Americans will have to die for there ideology to be able to take hold.
    Source?

    Oh communist does not mean what I think it does LOL... I know very well what it means and I can tell good enough you agree with the ideology.
    Tell me what you think it means, then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    Awww, dont be sad, we always have you.
    Hardly. If things do not improve over the next decade or so I am out of here.

    But not before collecting my generous severance package from the public service.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    If its a republican,
    After eliminating welfare and food stamps and not fixing the budget after also doubling military expenditures dealing with widespread extreme poverty and crime, and after repealling the ACA wondering why everyone is dying of diseases since you abolished the EPA and regulations.

    If its a democrat,

    Spernding all day Vetoeing all of the draconian DESTROY FOOD STAMPS, DESTROY WELFARE, DESTROY SOCIAL SECURITY, DESTROY TAXES, bills everday since every single state is gerrymandred by republicans so much the house is definitely going to be republican, and senate most likely since rural states are overepresented
    Last edited by user531345; 2014-10-05 at 04:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interception View Post
    Have a citation for this or are you simply talking out of your ass?

    Fox News does not count as a legitimate citation either.
    Well, as long as we can discount Huffpost, dailyko's and msnbc as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catacalysmic View Post
    Bush and reagan took way more vacations, imagine if obama did this
    Um no he is to busy playing golf while Americans are having there heads cut off ..... When he knew exactly where the terrorist were at months before happened. Or you mean the guy who can't seem to tell anyone where he was when our Ambassador was being killed in Libya with weapons his administration gave them? Fast and furious? Oh that's right executive privilege. IRS himm oops lost Emails, EPS ooops lost Emails. Or the guy that gets all his national news from the CNN? This guy makes Nixon look like a chump.

    Obama is a joke, even Putin knows he's a joke and has said as much. Na Obama is to busy leaking top secret information about our allys to our enemies. Also it would not matter what Obama does on the Golf course because the extreme left wing media would never report it. MSNBC has already said they swing socialist, yet people try to say these guys are center... LOL so bad Americans today have no idea what center is. PPL actually think Libertarians are far right, when they are not. As a real Libertarian what he thinks of gay marriage and abortion, he will tell you State rights let each State decide, which they are correct on.

    Next thing you will be saying Ron Paul is the far right wing LOL ok.. have a nice day.
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