Lvl 100 ridiculously low Balance dps

[Pyrodevil]

Hi all

So i've hit lvl 100 and am about 629 ivl. My experience with heroics thus far are making me wonder if i'm doing something drastically wrong.
Most other classes with similar gear are pulling approx 20-25k dps single target while i can barely manage 15-16.

I've looked at the sims etc, have tried different combos of talents, but cant seem to get dps above that mark.

This worries me for upcoming raids. Why would you take a boomkin when they're doing close to half the dps of others.

(not to mention for heroics our AOE is ridiculously low because a lot of the time we can't use starfall due to mob proximity)

Anyone else have different experiences?

[Cybb]

Euphoria is a must. Being able to move into move in and out of eclipses lets you get both dots and allows us to run guided stars with sunfire spreading.

I typically run SotF by default, Incarn is good, but not up for every boss in heroics if you are moving at any consistent speed.

Try to limit your movement on single target and use movement to cast Starfall or Starsurge, or redot.

I seem to be doing fine in my groups and can compete with others.

Add me if you have specific questions.

US - Cybb#1368

[dark666105]

Don't be afraid to use SS charges with euphoria, even if you end up not being able to use them all in that one eclipse. The buff is long enough that with the shortened duration on our cycle you can easily get them the next go around. But yes with our current levels of haste euphoria is a must.

As far as trash in heroics, USE THE STARFALL GLYPH! It is ridiculously easy to get the mobs you want to starfall dotted for the long term.

Overall my numbers were low but it was mainly attributed to mobs dying so fast, once I went into heroics I was top on bosses and competing on trash.

[Pyrodevil]

Thanks for the input thus far guys.

Update. I do slightly better dps with some Euphoria practice however listen to this travesty.

I swapped to feral to try it out
I do the same dps as boomkin.
Im wearing ALL caster gear (the heirloom caster staff, all moonkin trinkets rings and amulet (the remainder of my gear swapped). I have no glyphs and have minimal knowlege of the rotation or feral specc.

Something is definitely wrong with moonkin dps currently

[teddabear]

Thanks for the input thus far guys.

Update. I do slightly better dps with some Euphoria practice however listen to this travesty.

I swapped to feral to try it out
I do the same dps as boomkin.
Im wearing ALL caster gear (the heirloom caster staff, all moonkin trinkets rings and amulet (the remainder of my gear swapped). I have no glyphs and have minimal knowlege of the rotation or feral specc.

Something is definitely wrong with moonkin dps currently

Sadly it only takes minimal knowledge to play Feral now.

[Deleted]

I just think you are playing it wrong

[Deleted]

I feel like Euphoria compensates for the lack of haste we have, and makes it feel closer to what it was pre-6.0 imo.

As far as trash in heroics, USE THE STARFALL GLYPH! It is ridiculously easy to get the mobs you want to starfall dotted for the long term.

+1

Un-glyphed Starfall should only really be used on boss fights, or for grinding.

[Dreyen]

from what i hear, euphoria is the best single target talent... but other talents outshine it in non-single target (almost all raid fights)

I also hate the faster cycle that comes with it :>

[obaminator]

actually, ive been finding i get more dps in heroics with incarn + BoP. Not having to waste a gcd multiple time to apply dots helps drastically, especially since almost 90% of the new heroics require a lot of movement. SotF + euphoria seems so wonky. IDK, I too would like to hear whhat other boomkins think.

[zaijok]

ive seen boomkins with 615 ilvl do 15k ish so its most likely on ur end and not the class

[Deleted]

Personally my DPS is okay; it's competitive. I'm not on top or on bottom, just somewhere in the middle if not a little below that on AoE. In dungeons my AoE suffers because of Glyph of Guided Stars, where I have to either spend 5+ Moonfire GCDs to get the damage I would get initially without it, or use Astral Communion and rush to Solar to cast Sunfire which obviously is a DPS loss on trash than not using the glyph. I have a feeling Glyph of Solstice will be a significant DPS increase for trash in dungeons, but I haven't seen it on my server yet.

On single target however I'm very competitive on boss fights, but I am being extremely outshined by the likes of Hunters which seem to be doing an absolute ridiculous amount of damage in both AoE and ST from what I have seen so far.

I've also found Soul of the Forest to be more consistent than Incarnation for heroics. Obviously it's a DPS loss on the bosses (Because it is possible on most bosses to stay still for at least 15 seconds with CA+Inc) but for 80% of the dungeon it performs better for me. Bear in mind these are just my feelings, I have absolutely no numbers to back up whichever is more beneficial.

All in all I think Glyph of Guided Stars needs to go as it completely goes against Blizzard's philosophy on glyphs. It is clunky, it is mandatory in dungeons if you don't want to kill your group, and most importantly it is a DPS loss. Blizzard's reasoning of glyphs goes against two of those points; they want people to be able to choose whatever they want and it to be a hard decision and they certainly don't want glyphs to affect DPS. I see no logical reason why Blizz can't revert Starfall back to the way it was previously.

[ryklin]

you can increase your dps with euphoria by using SS before you leave a phase so that you can easily get into the peak with 2 spells of empowered, but it's not always easy to hit those timings well with it

[Deleted]

I feel like we're in the middle of the pack right now, with us only shinining on multi-dotting fights(2-3-4). Our aoe is really bad compared to other classes(especially with glyph of guided stars), removing mushrooms was a really bad thing and using hurricane feels pretty useless in most of the cases. About talents, I run Euphoria and I think its definitely the best choice so far. Pretty disappointed by our dps though, I expected to be much higher, especially after noticing they removed most of our utilities/defensive cds.

There are few classes that are out of control(hunters/warriors for example) and I find it pretty ridiculous. I know it's early to say it but so far I am not convinced at all with their balancing of all classes.

[Putin-Chan]

hey, at least you're not a shaman

[Dreyen]

I feel like we're in the middle of the pack right now, with us only shinining on multi-dotting fights(2-3-4). Our aoe is really bad compared to other classes(especially with glyph of guided stars), removing mushrooms was a really bad thing and using hurricane feels pretty useless in most of the cases. About talents, I run Euphoria and I think its definitely the best choice so far. Pretty disappointed by our dps though, I expected to be much higher, especially after noticing they removed most of our utilities/defensive cds.

There are few classes that are out of control(hunters/warriors for example) and I find it pretty ridiculous. I know it's early to say it but so far I am not convinced at all with their balancing of all classes.

So far in my guild groups ive done top dps or equal dps with everybody else... while having less gear.

Our aoe is amazing... as long as you can starfall. I do agree that glyph of guided stars is absolutely mandatory for any heroic though, and that we -really- suck at aoe when several targets need to die and we arent in solar to sunfire cleave, especially when those adds die very quickly.

[iriecolorado]

hey, at least you're not a shaman

Or a Warlock.

[Deleted]

Warlocks complaining about dps because for once they're not 20% above everybody else. Seems legit

[Teph]

anyone know what the stat prio is atm? Master > ??

Some list multistrike above haste/crit.

[Shadina]

I started running with euphoria but personally I found it to be to clunky. Very hard to time and with almost 3 sec cast time and some movement I will miss an entire lunar. Atm im on 620 pulling 12-17k depending on fight with SoF and BoP, I found that if I dont cock up with SS we can have a pretty high up-time on empowerment. I still get shit on by our retri and hunter in every fight but I got a good feeling that with some gear we shall be if not equal than atleast somewhat equal:P

[Teujo]

Are there any good video guides out for the current state of Moonkin? I love Moonkin and I am doing great in PVP but I am finding it hard to be competitive DPS and the Euphoria talent feels super clunky to me even though everyone says its the best..