Things missing from 6.1?

[Pua]

Well, not quite. I don't want this to turn into a flying thread (because we have one already) but a year before launch Bashiok made a post (since taken down) which spoke of quest chains and the like which would culminate with flying in 6.1. A few months after that they said that plans had changed and that they had no idea if or when flying would be available. "Wait and see" was the plan well before launch.

That’s a pretty accurate summary. I knew one of the blue posters had brought it up, I just couldn’t recall which one.

Then they realised how far behind they were, and cut flying altogether. First person to quote this and say “bet” will join a wager with me, for a Blizzard store pet, that we won’t fly in this expansion at all.

I don't remember anything about Tanaan jungle being set up for 6.1. And then dungeons: If there are going to be any more of those they'll come along after BRF. Blood elfs were announced as going to be late long before launch. All of this was pretty much old news before launch.

I wish I had the time to go find the posts, but I remember it being a Twitter conversation between Lore and some players. He said Tanaan wouldn’t be in launch, which caught out everybody because we all expected he would be, and then he said something like “we didn’t tell you that”.

As for blood elves, I still clearly remember Chris Robinson’s apology that they wouldn’t make it in for launch. Clearly, it was the plan to have them all done and they didn’t get there.

Well, I guess we'll see. If they can avoid going for a year with nothing new at the end of the expansion a lot of people will be happy enough about that.

I don’t recall an expansion being as lampooned as this one at this stage of its life. I think Blizzard are in for a cataclysmically rude awakening when they realise garrisons weren’t enough to carry an entire expansion.

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Seems like they learned their lesson. After all those accusations about broken promises and delays, they just won't talk about future stuff... what a great result.

Indeed, rather have this way.

The whole Farahlon thing was a huge fiasco...

[MoanaLisa]

Also, for the second time, I never said they “promised” it. If you’re going to get involved in a mature debate, you have to stop making things up. Honestly, it’s a prerequisite.

It doesn't make sense to say it's missing if one understands it was never promised. The thread title seems pretty clear that this is stuff that is missing from 6.1. Make up your mind.

[Pua]

It doesn't make sense to say it's missing if one understands it was never promised. The thread title seems pretty clear that this is stuff that is missing from 6.1. Make up your mind.

Of course it makes sense. It's pretty simple, actually.

There are things that the community expected to see in 6.1 and beyond, and they don't appear to be there.

Why not?

[MoanaLisa]

That’s a pretty accurate summary. I knew one of the blue posters had brought it up, I just couldn’t recall which one.

Then they realised how far behind they were, and cut flying altogether. First person to quote this and say “bet” will join a wager with me, for a Blizzard store pet, that we won’t fly in this expansion at all.

I question that being behind had anything at all to do with the decision. The zones are finished for flying and were at launch. There are game items that let you get up in the air and go wherever you want to go. So being behind isn't it. It's a few quests, treasures and rares. They talked with some detail about this just after Blizzcon when they had no idea how late they were likely to be. Go see the Afrasiabi/Furor video on the first post of the flying thread. He says full stop: "There will be no flying in Draenor at launch." However they managed to end up getting diverted into different things, Furor's ideas about how the expansion was going to go is what we have now.

I don’t recall an expansion being as lampooned as this one at this stage of its life. I think Blizzard are in for a cataclysmically rude awakening when they realise garrisons weren’t enough to carry an entire expansion.

I don't think that garrisons will carry the expansion either. I'm not sure they are supposed to. It's garrisons and, as always, raids. Starting with Cataclysm, there's not much else to most expansions after launch and the first patch except for raids. Stuff here and there but mostly raids. Mists had all kinds of problems with dailies at this stage of its life. Cataclysm had a lot of people yelling about heroics at about this point.

There's always something.

[Yuna]

Patch 6.1 will raise cm daily rewards from 640 to 660, which will be 20 ilvl higher than HM lfr and 10 ilvl higher than BRF lfr, effectively putting the average character ilvl somewhere between 640 and 650.

There "might" be new dungeons with 6.2 or 6.4, whether there will be two aditional raid tiers or not.

Flying "might" be possible after Tanaan Jungle events / quest chain or only in Tanaan, who knows...

[Deleted]

Why is everyone asking for dungeons? oO ,
me for example i just do them for gearing up, and a few times for inn quests on alts.

[Ranaka]

Why is everyone asking for dungeons? oO ,
me for example i just do them for gearing up, and a few times for inn quests on alts.

A lot of folks really like small group content and would like to see it go back to being a more meaningful part of the overall experiance.

[ttak82]

Well, I've felt most patches have had something nice, even if they are little tweaks to the UI or activities.

I have a feeling 6.2 will be grand, though, even though they have confirmed that there will be no new BGs in WoD. T4 Garrisons, New raid, spectator mode for Arena. These are my guesses.

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A lot of folks really like small group content and would like to see it go back to being a more meaningful part of the overall experiance.

Yeah but I doubt they will launch even three new dungeons in a patch. TBH, they should launch a patch with 4-5 dungeons with a new meta and separate CM rewards but it will never happen.

[Theendgamelv3]

Flying was removed from WoD to see how it could help us interact with the world and other players. I think it's doing a great job.

I log in, gather my garrison work orders, gather my mats from garrison mine and herbs. I then go to see what Garrison missions are finished and start up some new ones.

Now, from there I can either que up for a heroic dungeon or LFR from my garrison or if it's raid nights take a flight path which is close to Highmaul, then go raid, where I will then hearth back to my Garrison after raiding is over.

I might go to Warspear for my extra rolls in raids or to get queued up for Ashran.

All I know is, it's great being on the ground again and seeing more people interact.

If that is all you do, then they did a poor job at making players interact with each other and the world. This is saying that all you do is garrisons, dungeons and raids. Nothing here about interacting with the world. This is pretty much what I do. At least with flying I went out and flew around the world and felt like doing stuff, not so much in WoD. I don't find it great being on the ground when I basically "saw it all" when leveling and getting treasures.

[Servasus]

Literally all three of the things you claim Blizzard promised in patch 6.1 were NEVER promised in patch 6.1

Tanaan is for whenever the Iron Citadel raid is released. That could very well mean we might not see it till the final patch.

Flying was NEVER promised for 6.1. They said it could come in a later patch depending on how the playerbase reacted to it, and since Blizzard has seen an overwhelming positive reaction to no flying in Draenor, they have decided to postpone it, possible indefinitely. Which I am fine with, btw. Good fucking riddance to it.

Finally, dungeons were never promised in "between" patches. Blizzard said they would like to keep dungeons relevant even in later tiers. This could mean we won't see new dungeons until Tier 18 is released. It could ALSO mean that Blizzard will increase the ilevel gear that pre-existing 5mans drop while also raising their difficulty. We just don't know what they have planned because it's an entirely new expansion with an entirely new outlook on where dungeons fit into the formula.

In other words, your OP is full of BS and completely misinformed and bitching for the sake of bitching. None of this content, ever, was promised to anyone by 6.1.

[Deleted]

Not necessarily missing from 6.1 but missing from the entire expansion. Engineering.. What happened to this profession. Seems to be the worst I've experienced.. Really needs a look at.

More challenging 5 man dungeons would be nice for those of us with smaller groups on mates or whatever. That being said, I'm looking forward to 6.1.

[Pua]

In other words, your OP is full of BS and completely misinformed and bitching for the sake of bitching. None of this content, ever, was promised to anyone by 6.1.

It’s a good thing I never said they were promised then, isn’t it?

Honestly. If you’re going to come careering into a thread like a bull in a china shop, at least read the post you’re referring to.

It’d be a good start.

Pinky swear.

Otherwise, you end up looking like a monkey throwing its own faeces around without ever understanding why.

Like you just did.

[Deleted]

Movement buff for Elemental shaman.

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Literally all three of the things you claim Blizzard promised in patch 6.1 were NEVER promised in patch 6.1

Tanaan is for whenever the Iron Citadel raid is released. That could very well mean we might not see it till the final patch.

Flying was NEVER promised for 6.1. They said it could come in a later patch depending on how the playerbase reacted to it, and since Blizzard has seen an overwhelming positive reaction to no flying in Draenor, they have decided to postpone it, possible indefinitely. Which I am fine with, btw. Good fucking riddance to it.

Finally, dungeons were never promised in "between" patches. Blizzard said they would like to keep dungeons relevant even in later tiers. This could mean we won't see new dungeons until Tier 18 is released. It could ALSO mean that Blizzard will increase the ilevel gear that pre-existing 5mans drop while also raising their difficulty. We just don't know what they have planned because it's an entirely new expansion with an entirely new outlook on where dungeons fit into the formula.

In other words, your OP is full of BS and completely misinformed and bitching for the sake of bitching. None of this content, ever, was promised to anyone by 6.1.

The only thing in this thread which is full of BS might be your neck, bro.. just saying.

[Pua]

Movement buff for Elemental shaman.

Haha, yeah.

Even if they let Lightning Bolt be cast on the move with something like Sniper Training, it’d be better than what they’ve now got.

[Deleted]

Haha, yeah.

Even if they let Lightning Bolt be cast on the move with something like Sniper Training, it’d be better than what they’ve now got.

Do you and nildoriel take turns in bashing everything or is it just a coincidence? Im really curious because its you or him that is making all these posts moaning and whining about every little damn thing in this game. Why dont you just quit and go do something else?

[Tekkommo]

Patch 6.1 will raise cm daily rewards from 640 to 660

That's a good change for alts, pointless for mains (unless you're solely a LFR hero).

6.1 is lacking though, it aint adding much to do (imo adding nothing to do) and there is already nothing outside of raids to do.

Imagine BRF was released along with HM, or 2 weeks after like it should have been.

I don't really care much, as I just play to raid in this game, but I do wonder why Tanaan Jungle is taking so long and why they couldn't get that other zone in. I thought they increased the size of their team.

[Darknessvamp]

Flying was removed from WoD to see how it could help us interact with the world and other players. I think it's doing a great job.
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All I know is, it's great being on the ground again and seeing more people interact.

"Seeing more people interact" I highly disagree that idling in Garrisons and reading drama chat getting worse and more prevalent daily, queuing for a quick rush through LFR or a silent run through LFD, or portalling over to Warspear for 5 seconds for seals or an Ashran event tunnel group is spawning more interactions between players as a result of no flying. In fact the reason they are happening at all is due to the Garrisons and Stromshield being a portal away from each other and LFD/R being useable anywhere. Also please don't try and suggest that no flying caused more interaction with your guild when it's possible to interact with them at any time via /g or are you suggesting that you never bothered with socialising with your guild prior to no flight?

On Topic: Tanaan Jungle. As far as we know it was "pushed back" from launch but never specified if or when they would releasing the zone and at this moment in time we can only assume it'll be ready and available for the final tier if it doesn't go the same direction as Farahlon.

Flying. Flying has been rather a pain in the ass argument this expansion with Blizzard never outright stating a clear reason for why they haven't implemented it apart from the vaguest theorectical scenarios and excuses and has constantly been flip flopping over their stance on it even although there is clearly no reason to not include it apart from provide Flight Masters with an influx income. Either way they stated they're not having it for 6.1 (why after having all rares down and quests done for over 2 months now? No clue) and are still being stupidity vague about it's future.

Finally Dungeons. As has been mentioned already they did say they 'would' do more dungeons if they could yet of course that means they are just as likely not to bother with them as they did in MoP.

[Pua]

Do you and nildoriel take turns in bashing everything or is it just a coincidence? Im really curious because its you or him that is making all these posts moaning and whining about every little damn thing in this game. Why dont you just quit and go do something else?

Yeah, we take turns. I'm British and Nindo's American (probably), so we try to cover the time zones with tears.

[Deleted]

Yeah, we take turns. I'm British and Nindo's American (probably), so we try to cover the time zones with tears.

Thats great, then ill tell you the same I told him. Please quit WoW, Find another MMO and bitch and that forum.
These moany, whiny and just downright anoying posts you 2 are making are getting quite fricking irritating.

If you dont like something, quit stop making 200.000 posts about it with the same amount of moany crap just on a slightly different subject.