There is nothing wrong with "fotm rolling."

[Rorke]

"Fotm" is such a dumb term used by mostly scrubs to describe a person that is only playing to win. I'm tired of all of the random people that seem to deliberately play underpowered or trash specs so they can sit on these forums with some kind of chip on their shoulder while they wallow away in self pity.

I don't care if you play a WW Monk, Enhancement Shaman, Discipline Priest, Destruction Warlock or any other underpowered spec. Nobody is forcing you to play something that you and everyone else knows is trash. The fact is, competitive people play to win and will use the class that they think will best maximize their potential within the game. Classes are just tools that we use to win, they aren't a sports team where we need to dedicate and sell our souls to.

People that re roll classes based on the environment are not bad people. They're opportunists, risk takers and winners. Scrubs belittle them because scrubs want everyone to play by their artificial rulebook where everyone has to play one class or an underpowered class. God forbid a rational normal human being decides to change the class they play because the old class they were playing wasn't meeting the desired results they wanted.

I don't have a problem with people that do play something they like. I just have a problem with people that do that while talking down to those that don't follow the same code. I find these people to be the worst on these forums. They sit around all day and cry all day how bad and disadvantaged they are because "blizzard hates my class" meanwhile they always have the option to re roll.

I've come to the conclusion that these people secretly want "their class" to always be underpowered. Why? They enjoy the power of never having to lose "fairly" in their eyes. The way they see it, they can never lose clean because every single spec counters whatever they play so they're "expected" to lose. In other words, these people are very sore losers to the point where they will allow themselves to play in a disadvantaged state to ensure that they never lose at their 100%.

When you play the best specs in the game, you are under the highest amount of pressure from the community because you're expected to win. People underestimate the fact that you no matter how overpowered a certain class is, the player using that class still has to compete with a large number of other people playing the same class while using the same exact strategies.

What I'm trying to say is that the "fotm rollers" EARNED their rating no matter what people say about them. The game only measures wins and numbers, it does not measure "fairness."

[Tyze]

Well.. Someone that plays a class because it's good yet that person don't ENJOY playing it.

That's sad..

[HeroZero]

I see the FOTM rollers as wanting the easiest possible version of the game. To each their own, you will enjoy or not enjoy what you see fit. I will do exactly the same. But when push comes to shove do what you enjoy in the game, if that is FOTM then so be it. If you aren't enjoying a game then why would you play it. Many who disdain FOTM see the random new players who suddenly always want to be on the 'BEST SPEC' bandwagon, and hope it will bring them up from their low damage. Surely this seemingly overpowered spec will make me a god amongst men they think. Eventually they learn better.

[Deleted]

I see FOTM rollers as people who always want to be at the top of the damage meters, want to do the highest numbers and want their epeen stroked because they do the biggest numbers. That's all they are.

[des1234]

Well.. Someone that plays a class because it's good yet that person don't ENJOY playing it.

That's sad..

This.
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[Mirishka]

What a silly little rant. I particularly enjoyed this quip:

"I've come to the conclusion that these people secretly want "their class" to always be underpowered. Why? They enjoy the power of never having to lose "fairly" in their eyes. The way they see it, they can never lose clean because every single spec counters whatever they play so they're "expected" to lose. In other words, these people are very sore losers to the point where they will allow themselves to play in a disadvantaged state to ensure that they never lose at their 100%."

People who are arrogant enough to actually believe themselves capable of quantifying the action of thousands... that never fails to astound me. I guess its a maturity thing, people who don't yet realize that they aren't qualified to speak for anyone but themselves.

In short, 'Ryan'... worry more about yourself, less about others, and you'll be happier. And we'll be spared walls of nonsense like this topic. Thanks.

[Wass]

I think the whole term "fotm" is severely outdated since people have alts of pretty much any class these days. I kind of agree with parts of what Ryan said, but I can also feel for the people being sad or angry because their class is in a bad spot.

[Gevoth]

An extreme minority of players choose a class because they think it's underpowered. The vast majority picks their class because they find it fun.

I'm not a fan of flavor of the month band wagon rides, but as I tell everyone pick a class you like and have fun playing. If that's only the most powerful class in the current state of the game so be it.

[Sickjen]

3 DK"s earned there 2400+ in 3s

You know why people don't like re-rollers or FOTM? Because it's the easy way out. I look at a feral 2400+ rating and go meh.i see a windwalker 2400+ i go damn that guys a beast. Your points are invalid stop trying to defend rerolling FOTM because you are what's contributing to the lack of variety in arenas. When you face the same comps just remember people like you are just as stupid. Rather then learning the guts of a class you'd rather reroll.

[Ham on Rye]

People that re roll classes based on the environment are not bad people. They're opportunists, risk takers and winners.

Always playing the overpowered class to make up for your lack of skill is such a risk.

[ellieg]

What a silly little rant. I particularly enjoyed this quip:

"I've come to the conclusion that these people secretly want "their class" to always be underpowered. Why? They enjoy the power of never having to lose "fairly" in their eyes. The way they see it, they can never lose clean because every single spec counters whatever they play so they're "expected" to lose. In other words, these people are very sore losers to the point where they will allow themselves to play in a disadvantaged state to ensure that they never lose at their 100%."

People who are arrogant enough to actually believe themselves capable of quantifying the action of thousands... that never fails to astound me. I guess its a maturity thing, people who don't yet realize that they aren't qualified to speak for anyone but themselves.

In short, 'Ryan'... worry more about yourself, less about others, and you'll be happier. And we'll be spared walls of nonsense like this topic. Thanks.

Pretty sure thats the point hes making bro.

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I think the whole term "fotm" is severely outdated since people have alts of pretty much any class these days. I kind of agree with parts of what Ryan said, but I can also feel for the people being sad or angry because their class is in a bad spot.

exactly this. I have 3 lvl 100's, soon to be 5. Am i a terrible person because i choose to play my frost dk instead of ww monk in pvp?

[Omaski]

Advocating FotM re-rolling isn't good for Warcraft because it means accepting conformity in a game that strives for individuality. If re-rolling to FotM classes became a normal thing the game would become stale because all you would see in 2s is hunter/priest vs hunter/priest or 3s RMP/thug cleave/ or whatever comp is ruling the ladder these days. And i like what Blizz wants to do, making every class viable, although that may be impossible.

Many die-hard class/spec players like the challenge of making their class/spec rank1 viable or pushing the limits so that Blizz takes notice and makes a change with the spec that may push them over the hump. at least that's how i view it having played ret pally since cata.

[Darkdruidelf]

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Never hate on someone for taking advantage of what the game (or life in general) allows them to - it's the game's fault for making some things better than others, not the fault of people who play the fotm stuff.

[Lodreh]

Always playing the overpowered class to make up for your lack of skill is such a risk.

^^^ Sums it up very nicely.

[lunchbox2042]

I would rather play as the character I've been invested in. It is an rpg after all.

[Deleted]

^^^ Sums it up very nicely.

While not necessarily PvP related, if there was no consequence to rerolling I'd agree with you. However for me (personal thing) the whole reputations, certain armory statistics and some unique items that didn't make toyboy puts me off.

Mounts, Pets, Achievements were a good start.

[Daieon]

I've been playing hunter for ~9 years now and had someone say I was a fotm hunter. the whole thing is just everyones go to insult currently. People get mad when they don't do as well as a different class and just scream that the other class is overpowered. For me, it's moonkin and aff locks in bg's that I want to burn alive and kick in the throat. For others, it's hunters. The whole "fotm" thing is just the new "THAT CLASS IS OP NERF IT" crowd.

[Kopp81]

I'm really tired of seeing resto druids in every single match.

[cFortyfive]

Well.. Someone that plays a class because it's good yet that person don't ENJOY playing it.

That's sad..

What about enjoying to win ?

[Deleted]

I reroll fotm all the time. Anyone who says it's sad or some shit can suck it!

It's called "Adapting". If your class can no longer cut it, no matter we're talking pvp or pve, it's always a good idea to change. Just make sure to always expect the balance to change and not to cry when it changes hard.

The only ones who are sad are those who stick with their character while doing a crappy performance, because they have some sort of weird loyalty towards their class or because they have many achievs and titles that don't transfer between characters and don't want to lose them.