Obama Warns Against ‘High Horse’ on Religious Extremism

[chrisberb]

there are people who still think republicans in those days are the same as they are today?

Nah, they know that at some point the D and R next to people's names changed..they just prey on the uninformed.

[Sky High]

such typical projection. "omg president Obumer wants us to treat people decently", "so he can keep me from treating them like shit!".

[Teph]

And i thought only forum users compare recent extremism with events that happened centuries ago. His message is by no means wrong, but this is still silly.

[Vyxn]

When was the last time an abortion clinic was blown up? How often has it happend?

I'm so tired of these talking points used by certain people with no context. The vast majority of Muslims world wide believe that the wife should always obey her husband: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/t...en-in-society/

Yet when Candance Cameron says she believes her husband is the leader of her family, the left calls her bat shit crazy.

You can find a million other statistics that show that Islam and the majority of its adherents don't subscribe to western values.

When you have to resort to actions taken 800 years ago by nations that no longer exist to say "we're bad too" you're missing something. It doesn't help that you can't even have an honest discussion on Islam without someone tossing out buzzwords like "Islamphobia."

Let's talk about what's going on in the modern world and not shit that happened before the average person knew that the Earth wasn't the center of the universe.

they don't want to have an honest discussion because if they was honest they would have to admit there is a major problem with in the religion of Islam. so they attempt to shut down the conversation by using conversation killers like Islamphobia or divert attention away and try to change the subject by bringing up what Christianity has done in the past or present that doesn't even come close to comparison, or like what Obama just did and say who are you to get up on your high horse and judge any other religious extremism because of you religious extremism in the past

[Kathandira]

,” Obama continued, “and lest we get up on our high horse and think that this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ.”

Your post was missing some info. Likely because you didn't want to add it since it would discredit your intention of painting Obama and an ISIS Apologist.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whit...olence-n300786

Read this article for a more view of what he had said.

[Vanyali]

they don't want to have an honest discussion because if they was honest they would have to admit there is a major problem with in the religion of Islam. so they attempt to shut down the conversation by using conversation killers like Islamphobia or divert attention away and try to change the subject by bringing up what Christianity has done in the past or present that doesn't even come close to comparison, or like what Obama just did and say who are you to get up on your high horse and judge any other religious extremism because of you religious extremism in the past

LRA is occurring right now. They're a terrorist christian group.

but let me guess, they don't count because <it'snotREALLYchristian>.

[Kalis]

they don't want to have an honest discussion because if they was honest they would have to admit there is a major problem with in the religion of Islam. so they attempt to shut down the conversation by using conversation killers like Islamphobia or divert attention away and try to change the subject by bringing up what Christianity has done in the past or present that doesn't even come close to comparison, or like what Obama just did and say who are you to get up on your high horse and judge any other religious extremism because of you religious extremism in the past

He's not talking about judging religious extremism, he's talking about judging an entire religion because of extremists within it.

WHAT PART OF THIS IS DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND?

[Lenonis]

When was the last time an abortion clinic was blown up? How often has it happend?

Recent enough to be relevant when talking about current religious extremism.

I'm so tired of these talking points used by certain people with no context.

A conservative talking about context? That's just hilarious.

The vast majority of Muslims world wide believe that the wife should always obey her husband

That's also in the bible. Crazy huh?

Yet when Candance Cameron says she believes her husband is the leader of her family, the left calls her bat shit crazy.

"the left" huh? Does that mean "the right" doesn't believe in vaccines? Or believes that gays should be put on an island in isolation? Or that they can see Russia from their house? (Oh wait...context...she didn't actually say that.)

You can find a million other statistics that show that Islam and the majority of its adherents don't subscribe to western values.

And why should they, assuming they aren't abusing people in the process? Not everyone has to hold the same beliefs.

It doesn't help that you can't even have an honest discussion on Islam without someone tossing out buzzwords like "Islamphobia."

When is the last time there was an honest discussion about Islam in the political arena?

[Sky High]

He's not talking about judging religious extremism, he's talking about judging an entire religion because of extremists within it.

WHAT PART OF THIS IS DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND?

the part where he has to try and differentiate "gud muslim" from "bad muslim", because to him there doesn't seem to be a difference.

[Vyxn]

where's the word judge in this? and where does he say we shouldn't judge the terrorists? fail. he's just saying this isn't unique to one religion. as a conservative shouldn't you stick to the facts?

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there are people who still think republicans in those days are the same as they are today?

first of all you need to know what the phase getting up on your high horse means. it means you think you are higher, above, better, have the moral authority to judge

[Lenonis]

they don't want to have an honest discussion because if they was honest they would have to admit there is a major problem with in the religion of Islam.

Extremists != the entire religion.

Otherwise I can sit here and look at the WBC and say "boy christians everywhere sure have issues"

[Kathandira]

first of all you need to know what the phase getting up on your high horse means. it means you think you are higher, above, better, have the moral authority to judge

Right, He is saying we should not get on our high horse and judge Muslims based on the actions of the Extremists.

[Vyxn]

He's not talking about judging religious extremism, he's talking about judging an entire religion because of extremists within it.

WHAT PART OF THIS IS DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND?

Right, He is saying we should not get on our high horse and judge Muslims based on the actions of the Extremists.

it is in the context of him bringing up extremism by Christians in the past as if Christians have the right getting upon the "High Horse" to judge Islamic extremism

[Lenonis]

it is in the context of him bringing up extremism by Christians in the past as if Christians have the right getting upon the "High Horse" to judge Islamic extremism

Why are you insisting on deliberately misunderstanding what he said when you have both context and links showing that you misunderstood?

[Kathandira]

it is in the context of him bringing up extremism by Christians in the past as if Christians have the right getting upon the "High Horse" to judge Islamic extremism

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whit...olence-n300786

[chrisberb]

it is in the context of him bringing up extremism by Christians in the past as if Christians have the right getting upon the "High Horse" to judge Islamic extremism

So you obviously have some anger about him using the phrase "high horse". Do you feel insulted, because the president used a very common cliche phrase?

[Kraenen]

first of all you need to know what the phase getting up on your high horse means. it means you think you are higher, above, better, have the moral authority to judge

shouldn't you be sticking to the facts of what he said, instead of making up interpretations? you know, since you say you're a conservative.

[Kathandira]

it is in the context of him bringing up extremism by Christians in the past as if Christians have the right getting upon the "High Horse" to judge Islamic extremism

What he is saying is:

Hey Christians, stopping hating on all the Muslims. Get off your high horse, don't you all remember when your own religion did the same shit? Not all Muslims are terrorists.

[Daelak]

When was the last time an abortion clinic was blown up? How often has it happend?

I'm so tired of these talking points used by certain people with no context. The vast majority of Muslims world wide believe that the wife should always obey her husband: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/t...en-in-society/

Yet when Candance Cameron says she believes her husband is the leader of her family, the left calls her bat shit crazy.

You can find a million other statistics that show that Islam and the majority of its adherents don't subscribe to western values.

When you have to resort to actions taken 800 years ago by nations that no longer exist to say "we're bad too" you're missing something. It doesn't help that you can't even have an honest discussion on Islam without someone tossing out buzzwords like "Islamphobia."

Let's talk about what's going on in the modern world and not shit that happened before the average person knew that the Earth wasn't the center of the universe.

Ten years ago.

The vast majority of Christians in the US in the early to mid 20th century agreed to the same thing. Should we just exterminate 1 billion Muslims because they aren't evolving fast enough? Or better yet, start a global war against any and all Muslims, including detaining Muslims in western countries?

The US has been meddling in the Middle East since WW2. We funded dictatorships and corrupt republics, those corrupt republics tortured and detained their fringe political elements, those tortured, fringe political movements, like Sayyid Qutb's, the father of the modern radical Islamic movement, were radicalized because they were tortured by the CIA in Egypt, he was later executed in 1966, and his main followers included OBL and the radical Obama killed in Yemen in 2011. We made them radicalized.

[matt4pack]

Extremists != the entire religion.

Otherwise I can sit here and look at the WBC and say "boy christians everywhere sure have issues"

But but the WBC and Eric Rudolph.

Give me a freaking break. If that's all you got to compare with over 5,000 people being murdered by Islamic extremist in one month alone then you aren't even living in reality.