Experimenting with Pleistocene Rewilding!

[Techno-Druid]

Seem to me like Europe in terms of experimenting with rewinding is much far ahead of us and from what I've heard. So why not experiment with the idea of Pleistocene rewilding? I mean fencing off a large area of western land and reintroducing species that went extinct there or ecological surrogates. Simply one can't object to the idea of experimentation and it would still be a long process. If animals show any negative affects with coexisting with the isolated native megafauna, they could easily be taken out, large animals that are readily tracked can be easily removed.



So why not experiment?

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Nah, that costs money and average joe moron doesn't give a crap.

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Ecological surrogates sounds like an euphemisn for invasive species.

[Techno-Druid]

Ecological surrogates sounds like an euphemisn for invasive species.

An invasive species that was once native or had a close native relative and isn't invasive, but yeah...

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You specified ecological surrogate which implys that its a different species soooo nope its invasive so are former native species after the fauna and flora got stabilisied exspecially if millenia past by in some of your pet projects.

[Techno-Druid]

Nah, that costs money and average joe moron doesn't give a crap.

Yeah, more people are sadly more worried about a pair of shoes than ecology.

[Wildtree]

Does it have any military benefits?

[Techno-Druid]

You specified ecological surrogate which implies that its a different species soooo nope its invasive so are former native species after the fauna and flora got stabilized especially if millennia past by in some of your pet projects.

1. You realize that an invasive species actually has to be invasive to obviously be considered invasive. 2. Stabilized? Not really, there are still many plants which have no animals feeding on it. Certain plants were once fed upon by camels which have a high tolerance for plants that would otherwise be poisonous. 3. Is experimentation that bad, I mean you sound like the damn Catholic Church right now.

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Is experimentation that bad, I mean you sound like the damn Catholic Church right now.

Perform your "experiements" in a controlled enviroment and dont destory the ecosystem while doing it.

Does it have any military benefits?

No its damn useless.

[Wildtree]

makes thread with question..
gets mad when people say no to the idea...

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No its damn useless.

i know.....

[Techno-Druid]

Perform your "experiements" in a controlled enviroment and dont destory the ecosystem while doing it.


No its damn useless.

That's exactly what I'm talking about, preforming it in a controlled ecological setting and then studying the affects and determining the viability of the project.

Also, I have a few ideas for some species...

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You specified ecological surrogate which implys that its a different species soooo nope its invasive so are former native species after the fauna and flora got stabilisied exspecially if millenia past by in some of your pet projects.

You're talking to someone who wants to introduce dangerous predators right into densely populated areas and if some people get killed "well, cars kill more people". He's not concerned with the consequences of his ideas, the other threads made that absolutely clear.

[Techno-Druid]

makes thread with question..
gets mad when people say no to the idea...

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i know.....

I'm not mad whatsoever, I'm simply having an argument. You act as if I'm shouting insults and threats...

[Wildtree]

Also, I have a few ideas for some species...

That's what Hitler said




There, now we got Godwin out of the way too

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makes thread with question..
gets mad when people say no to the idea...

Because they are not really questions. It's more like he preaches and we're supposed to answer as he thinks is right. Remember his other threads? He already has a formed opinion and everything standing in it's way aswell as the consequences be damned.

[Techno-Druid]

You're talking to someone who wants to introduce dangerous predators right into densely populated areas and if some people get killed "well, cars kill more people". He's not concerned with the consequences of his ideas, the other threads made that absolutely clear.

I never said nor supported the introduction of predators into DENSELY HUMAN POPULATED areas. The slander here is humorous

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That's what Hitler said




There, now we got Godwin out of the way too

???? What on Earth does Hitler have to do with introducing plains bison into plains areas?

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Also, my questions haven't been answered, in fact my questions cannot even be answered simply with no.

[Wildtree]

I'm not mad whatsoever, I'm simply having an argument. You act as if I'm shouting insults and threats...

idk...... this sounds pretty angry:

Is experimentation that bad, I mean you sound like the damn Catholic Church right now.

Let me try to take your question serious for a moment..
You propose a reanimation of a time period that lasted 2.5 million years.. it ended roughly 11k years ago. and when it ended there was barely anything different to today in terms of nature.
Now why have we not done so yet and created a little Jurassic Park? Because we don't know what the fuck we do, what the hell we would be facing. We could, for all we know, cause our own undoing. And the military question was serious actually.
We don't pursue projects that have no military benefits.

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I never said nor supported the introduction of predators into DENSELY HUMAN POPULATED areas. The slander here is humorous

Yeah? Remember wolves? You were very much in favour of introducing those into Middle/West Europe. Guess what? There's some there and they're already starting to engage in pre predation on humans and causing heaps of problems. Their days are pretty much numbered. But here you are, propagating bringing invasive species and some of them possibly dangerous into a eco-system that is very likely not suited for them anymore, wouldn't benefit from them and most likely will be harmed.

[Wildtree]

Omaha, Nebraska metro here......
Cops just shot a mountain lion within city limits here a short while ago... We got enough wilderness for that matter... lol

[Techno-Druid]

idk...... this sounds pretty angry:

Let me try to take your question serious for a moment..
You propose a reanimation of a time period that lasted 2.5 million years.. it ended roughly 11k years ago. and when it ended there was barely anything different to today in terms of nature.
Now why have we not done so yet and created a little Jurassic Park? Because we don't know what the fuck we do, what the hell we would be facing. We could, for all we know, cause our own undoing. And the military question was serious actually.
We don't pursue projects that have no military benefits.

Military? Why do you keep referencing the military? I doubt horses, bison, camels, elk, white-tailed deer and cheetahs would do any harm, especially if they are fenced off in their own reserve. It also wouldn't be our undoing, I've never heard of a wolf causing the total breakdown of a society.