Umineko Chapter 07 -
Spoiler:You know I had my post all thought up until the tea party and now I can't even remember half of what I was going to say... just when everything seemed wrapped up, that went and happened. What the fuck. Honestly, that had been my initial theory during the very first game with the very first murders: they all murdered each other over an inheritance scuffle. To see it all play out like that was quite disturbing... I mean, what the fuck Kyrie... I thought you were cool.
Granted I don't really know if any of what we saw was true. Bernkastel was cut off when she used the red truth, after all.
I'm not sure what to make of those flashbacks either. Kinzo being the one to come up with the idea to kill the Italians? A body that can't love? I'm not sure what the second is exactly supposed to mean but the first is kind of sad... I hope it isn't true.
In general, this chapter was really amazing. I loved the atmosphere, it was quite brilliant to have it set during a funeral. The first half in particular just felt amazing having everything be revealed on that rainy day.
It seems like I was kind of right, though wrong about the reason why Beatrice's child had different 'personalities'. To be quite honest I don't really understand how Kanon is even supposed to work... did 'Lion' switch between pretending to be Shannon and Kanon from time to time? Jessica falling in love with Kanon makes it confusing since he clearly can't just be a complete illusion like Gaap. I thought they would go in-depth with that during the big confession but Kanon was barely mentioned at all. Did everyone (outside the servants) actually believe Kanon and Shannon were different people? It's kind of bizarre - surely there were scenes where people spoke to both Kanon/Shannon in a group scenario...? I genuinely can't remember if anything contradicts this.
As for the games, I don't have a full idea because Will's rebuttals were kind of vague... but I think I mostly get them now? If both Kanon/Shannon are illusions it doesn't really matter if they die, and 'Lion' can continue to kill people, I assume. Using this logic you can explain a lot of the strange scenarios from the past games, particularly when red text was used to definitely say Shannon/Kanon died.
Honestly I had been thinking Kanon was suspicious, I think after the fourth game. His situation was somewhat similar to Kinzo's in that his deaths were kind of strange and followed a pattern, but I had never imagined something like this would be revealed. This Beatrice twist was something I simply never saw coming.
And I'm not sure if I missed something but Battler's parentage still hasn't been addressed? At this point I'm assuming it was a red herring and his real mother is irrelevant, but it's strange it was never even mentioned. To be honest I thought Will might be revealed to be an some form of Battler, like his future self or something. Maybe I still believe that? There's still the mysterious reason why Will left the organization to be revealed, who knows how this plays into things.
All in all, wew. The scenes with Kinzo really were 10/10, especially when he was explaining his past and was begging Lion for forgiveness. In the end what he did was quite fucked up, but I can't help but pity him.
Genji was also amazing this chapter. Gotta admire what he did.
Lion is also super cute. Having the same voice actor as Saber helps.
Spoiler:Oh the fucking Tea party. It's so brutal. I don't even know what was the most brutal part of it to me. Was it the fact that Kyrie and Rudolf more or less killed them all and were going to kill them all regardless of Beatrice existing. Or was it the disembowelment of 'Claire' which more or less showed glimpse of one of the scenes in red with Yasu pretty much screaming at Genji, Nanjo and Kumasawa for not letting her die. The way Claire read the story was completely different and that just makes you wonder how the rest of the scenes were in reality.
Wasn't it Kinzo's commander who decided to kill the Italians in the flashback though? Granted, it was only something Kinzo was telling us so details might have been different.
Body that cannot love - the VN doesn't clarify this iirc so I recommend reading manga for the final arc after you're done with the VN. Especially the manga extra chapters 'Confession of the golden witch' are really interesting.
Yasu switches between Kanon and Shannon. People who are accomplices know about this. The servants are all in it every single time though not 100% sure about Gohda since it has been a while since I read it. During the first four arcs, only people who were accomplices or soon to be dead could see Kanon and Shannon at the same time. Not a single time did Battler meet both of them at the same time except during the first episodes Tea Party. It was the same with other people too. Kanon was always around the corner 'watching from the shadows' or something when Shannon was being scolded.
Will's answers though. Those were weird af when I first read it. I was just like, 'wat, I spent over a month reading this and this is what I get?!' but really they all make sense if you look at the scenarios.
Like this one:
First game, first twilight, six corpses in the garden shed.
Illusions to illusions. The corpse that cannot return to earth returns to illusions.
Shannon's body was never there. Her body was in the back of the shed for this reason. Only Hideyoshi and Kanon saw it and just told everyone else that it was there.
The red web that Will never solved there being the most brutal of them. Not because it's particulary hard but because of what it implies about Yasu's personality. In the third game, when Nanjo died, Shannon and Kanon were dead right? Or rather, Kanon was a ghost that was guiding Jessica. This isn't actually a problem except it kind of is. The epitaph had been solved and Beatrice had said in red that she keeps her promises. To me atleast this is heavily implying that Shannon, Kanon and Beatrice are all just facades for Yasu, and Yasu is still there. Shannon and Kanon were 'dead' and Beatrice promised not to kill, this leaves Yasu to kill Nanjo regardless. Feels kinda bad tbh.
Genji is indeed based. Lion is a super cute and probably my favourite of all the Yasus/Beatrices/whatevers.
Really glad you liked this chapter. It's probably the most controversial chapter in Umineko and a lot of people hate it with a passion, /a/ in particular hates episode 7. I personally really loved 7 and was really surprised when I saw how much /a/ hates it.