LFR killed your motivation to raid harder difficulties?

[Lamb Mine]

Curious if anyone else is experiencing a complete lack of motivation to participate in organized raiding because it's essentially just doing the same bosses/content on higher difficulty settings? Before LFR, I was always eager to participate in organized raiding and gain access to content I couldn't see without a regular group. Now, however, the only draw to doing the harder difficulties is gaining a higher ilvl, which just isn't a compelling enough reason for me to deal with having a set gaming schedule, or even to suffer through the headaches of random pugs.

Anyone else experience anything similar?

[Sindile]

I raided hardcore until the beginning of Cata and didn't raid at all during Firelands. LFR came out at the perfect time for me, but my motivation was long dead to raid higher difficulties.

[Jewsco]

When 10% of the player base ever raided how exactly has lfr affected this?

[Lamb Mine]

When 10% of the player base ever raided how exactly has lfr affected this?

Did you read the OP? I think you missed the discussion it was aimed at starting.

[Deleted]

The bosses are not the same. They have fewer abilities, the are nerfed to the ground so that it does not matter how good you or anyone else in the raid plays their class. There is no challenge in lfr. Not even the slightest.

[Evilfish]

No, but it gave me a base idea of the fights in higher difficulties.

[Antereon]

No and if it did then you're not the audience for raiding.

[Jewsco]

Did you read the OP? I think you missed the discussion it was aimed at starting.

Yes another lame attempt at ripping lfr.
How many threads do we need on this ?
Wish people would get thru their thick skulls that lfr was made to get more people into raiding to justify the development cost of raids.
Do you remember dragon soul and how it was 8 bosses and the big baddie of the whole expansion death wing and we fought his chin and tentacles?
Since they added lfr the raids in mop and WoD have been better.
A lot better.
Now content outside of raiding is another story and is lacking but the raids are better.
If one doesn't want the challenge of higher raiding that is their choice.
How lfr effects that choice is even a joke to say.

[Armourboy]

Nope. The fact I got married and have a job with rotating days is what is doing it. I never raided to see the content really. It was far more about having something challenging to do with a group of people I enjoyed doing things with. They all bailed in Cata, came back in WoD and bailed again.

With LFR I at least have something to kill time with if nothing else. Without it, I would just find something else and wouldn't be raiding.

[Deleted]

Not really. LFR opens up significantly later than normal mode and higher difficulties. In case of HFC it'll be almost 3 months.
Even in my casual 1 day per week raid guild I saw final boss fight waaaaaaaay before it was available on LFR.

If anything, the difficulty number bloat made me fuck mythic. I feel satisfied with ahead of the curve and I have little to none intention of baning my head at the exact same encounters with bigger numbers for hundreds upon hundred of wipes. Especially with mythic garrison missions, I don't even have to work for that "special snowflake" mythic gear because it comes automatically once every 2 weeks if only my character has enough heroic kills.

If anything kills my motivation to raid, it's the current iteration of garrison reward system (giving you loot from higher difficulty than you're doing currently). Certainly not LFR's fault at this.

[Ornerybear]

As someone who enjoys a challenge, I would love to try harder difficulties of raiding, especially when its not a challenge for me to be consistent top performer in LFR...yawn.

LFR didn't kill my motivation to try harder difficulties though, what killed my motivation is life holding more sway of my time usage and schedule than some group of people killing imaginary bad guys for multiple hours at the same time each week. I can't fit any week to week schedule in to raid. period. Plus finding a guild that fits into my best case "maybe every week at this time" doesnt work.

So screw it, lfr is the best i can do at this point in my life. thanks being an adult. haha

[lazorexplosion]

First of all, organized raiding gets a 10 week head start, so you should be lacking motivation to do it again on LFR having already seen it in normal, not lacking motivation to do it on normal having already seen it in LFR. You know, unless your organized raid group is progressing through normal so slowly it's behind LFR in pace, in which case, yeah maybe you probably should be in LFR.

Secondly, if the pains and hassles of organized raiding are so great that they make you want to do the raids in LFR instead of normal, isn't that equivalent to saying on net, subtracting the extra shit you get trying to do normal+ isn't worth it to you? So what's the problem then? Just do LFR.

[Deleted]

No, it's very different experience form organized raiding.

[Zelendria]

Nope just saw it as a gateway into more difficult encounters all the way up to mythic.

I wouldn't be subbed if I wasn't raiding.

[Xjev]

I think only Blizzard with their internal data can answer this, this is one of those issues affecting our subconscious without us knowing the cause

[Kelathos]

Raiding is wiping.

Though LFR sees plenty of failure at times, it's not the same thing as watching your friends slowly learn and overcome a difficult encounter. So no, a faceroll mode with limited mechanics and total strangers cannot replace organized raiding. The minimum I'll settle for is Heroic, but the true raiding happens at Mythic.

[bufferunderrun]

Curious if anyone else is experiencing a complete lack of motivation to participate in organized raiding because it's essentially just doing the same bosses/content on higher difficulty settings? Before LFR, I was always eager to participate in organized raiding and gain access to content I couldn't see without a regular group. Now, however, the only draw to doing the harder difficulties is gaining a higher ilvl, which just isn't a compelling enough reason for me to deal with having a set gaming schedule, or even to suffer through the headaches of random pugs.

Anyone else experience anything similar?

quite the contrary if lfr wasn't introduced during DS i will probably left the game forever since i was already unsubbed during 4.1, what really push me out of serious raiding is a total personal feeling that at the end of the day having a second stressful job is not worth it.

[Jewsco]

Lfr is the one thing blizz has been truthful with us about.
With lfr the raids for normal and higher tiers has gotten bigger and better.
I don't want dragon soul or fireland size raids again.

If lfr is th level of difficulty that satisfies your raiding itch then it also has done its job.
Do lfr and be done at least numbers wise blizz can say more people are raiding.
If just 5% of people that do lfr move on to higher raiding than they did before that would make 15% raiding those tiers.
That is 50% more which would be considered a success

[melodramocracy]

Naturally it's going to do this.

[Jewsco]

Raiding is wiping.

Though LFR sees plenty of failure at times, it's not the same thing as watching your friends slowly learn and overcome a difficult encounter. So no, a faceroll mode with limited mechanics and total strangers cannot replace organized raiding. The minimum I'll settle for is Heroic, but the true raiding happens at Mythic.

For you and your skill level.
How hard is it to understand not everyone is at your level?
Instead of seeing it as good for you that you can raid at that level you rather look down or insult those underneath you why?
People play for different reasons and different skill levels enjoy the one you play on.
Why must you waste your time demeaning those that play differently?
How does that effect your play or life?