Diet/exercise vs weight loss surgery

[Deleted]

Just our of curiosity as I was watching my 600lbs life.
Do you respect the people that diet and exercise on the same level as people who opt in for weight loss surgery?
Gastric bypass/sleeve etc. Or do you feel like its the lazy way out?

I see them as equal because the surgery comes with many risks.
What about you?

[Heladys]

I don't worry about whether one way or the other is lazy, it's a question of which is more likely to be a longterm-effective solution.

I can't help but think that someone who works out and loses the weight has demonstrably made more of a lifestyle change commitment than someone that opts for surgery - but there are many valid reasons why one might choose surgery so I don't think the choice implies a "respect" decision either way.

[Independent voter]

What ever it takes to get the job done. Diet and exercise is safer I think.

[Misjudged Maaanwell]

I'll never understand how it got so outta control that they became more than 300lbs. Sweat it out bro. sweat it out

[Deleted]

Can't really say that I care too much either way. Also, as long as people are fine with it and their progress themselves - why care about what others might consider lazy?

[Deleted]

I don't really hold anyone in that great of a respect for simply managing to lose weight, no matter how they do it. It should be the easiest thing in the world to eat less.

While eating less is easy Those people seem mentally addicted and recovering from one doesn't seem to easy.

[Misjudged Maaanwell]

I don't really hold anyone in that great of a respect for simply managing to lose weight, no matter how they do it. It should be the easiest thing in the world to eat less.

One day people will learn, its not about eating less. Its making the most outta it through out the day

[Aucald]

Depends on your goal, really. If the end-goal is weight loss then surgery is the quickest path to get there, I wouldn't argue that. Diet and exercise is a much slower, but it also leads to longer-term results - as you increase your overall activity and modify your diet your metabolism and related process change for the better. Surgery doesn't confer the same benefit, and there's an unfortunate tendency for people to relapse into old habits with the thought-process of "well, I'm trim and fit now so hand me that chocolate cheesecake." I would always advise someone going the surgery route to have a trainer or partner to keep them on the straight and narrow, so to speak. An exercise and diet regimen that will sustain their weight and keep it stable in the long term.

[Deleted]

Having never been addicted to anything in my life I can't relate to any of that.

But you don't necessarily have to relate to something in order to know that it's happening. I cannot relate to an addiction either but I know that people can get addicted to things easily enough and struggle with it for the rest of their lives. It shows with drugs, alcohol, food and even gaming.
I know that a food addiction isn't entirely the same as being addicted to meth though.

[Blueobelisk]

What's the difference? The end result is the same.

[Deleted]

While eating less is easy Those people seem mentally addicted and recovering from one doesn't seem to easy.

It isn't about eating less, it's about what you eat. Your body is a complex system of biochemistry and hormones. A lot of these people that are overweight get that way due to being uneducated and lack of regulation in the food industry. More than 80% of products in the supermarkets have reduced fat that has been replaced with sugars and other carbohydrates. It's these products that make people fat, they don't know any better. If someone goes to a traditionalist, very rarely will they give their client correct information on how to lose weight.

Addiction certainly plays a massive part in weight control.

[Aucald]

I'll never understand how it got so outta control that they became more than 300lbs. Sweat it out bro. sweat it out

It's easy to do, unfortunately. I work as a programmer and consultant at an office job - sitting for the lion's share of the day at my desk pouring over code. I don't eat in excess and have a basic diet, but I also don't get enough exercise and have to seek it out at the gym or make time for it outside of working hours. The problem there is that, at the end of the day, I'm mentally exhausted and don't really want to haul off to the gym and jump on the elliptical for a good 30 minutes to an hour. But you have to make it happen if you want to stay at a healthy weight .

[Acelius]

What's the difference? The end result is the same.

One is the result of dedication and willpower, the other is a result of being weak and wasting valuable resources from doctors and surgeons when you could have gone for a run and eat veggies.

The problem there is that, at the end of the day, I'm mentally exhausted and don't really want to haul off to the gym and jump on the elliptical for a good 30 minutes to an hour. But you have to make it happen if you want to stay at a healthy weight .

If you want to be in shape, you do what it takes. I do labor work 8 hours a day and I still hit the gym 3-4 times a week.

[lockedout]

If you have a medical condition that keeps you overweight and somehow exercise and eating correctly does nothing to improve yourself then I think surgery is probably your only choice. Otherwise you're just lazy and looking for the easy way out.

Is it possible to gain weight again after having the surgery?

[Deleted]

One is the result of dedication and willpower, the other is a result of being weak and wasting valuable resources from doctors and surgeons when you could have gone for a run and eat veggies.

I'd say that a lot of people lack the proper knowledge to lose weight, especially considering weight loss guidelines are entirely wrong. Exercise play such a minor role in weight loss. It's about eating the correct macro nutrients to reverse insulin resistance.

[I Push Buttons]

Having never been addicted to anything in my life I can't relate to any of that.

Satan explains it best.

[lockedout]

Having never been addicted to anything in my life I can't relate to any of that.

Try eating a diet that consists of no sugar, not even fruit, 0 sugar intake.

[goblingirl]

The surgery is basically an end-run around having to do the mental/psychological work on why you overeat and changing that about yourself. We in this country don't value mental health, though, so it's often a ton easier (no pun intended) for people to get insurance to pay for gastric surgery than it is to qualify for long-term mental health counseling support to change your mind and your behaviors. Sad, but true.

[Deleted]

But you have to make it happen if you want to stay at a healthy weight .

Meh. I don't work out at all and sit around most of the day - and I am still at a very low weight just by not eating (that) much. You don't necessarily need to be active in order to not get overweight.

[Ratboy]

If you have a medical condition that keeps you overweight and somehow exercise and eating correctly does nothing to improve yourself then I think surgery is probably your only choice. Otherwise you're just lazy and looking for the easy way out.

Is it possible to gain weight again after having the surgery?

Even if you do have something like Gastric bypass you still need to watch what you eat and exercise or else you will not really lose anything or gain the weight back.