Pride march labelled racist

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http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.667637

Swedish nationalists are planning a gay 'pride' march through Muslim-majority districts in the country's capital, according to media reports and a dedicated Facebook page.

The march, called 'Pride Järva,' is scheduled to take place on July 29, and will pass through Tensta and Husby, majority-Muslim districts in Stockholm's north. (Järva is the name of an adjacent area.) Husby was the center of the 2013 Stockholm riots, which began in response to allegations of police brutality.

According to the event's Facebook page, the march will include public “kissing."

The organizer of the march, Jan Sjunnesson, is the former editor of the far-right Sweden Democrats' newspaper, the Samtiden. The Sweden Democrats are known for their anti-immigration policies, and came out strongly in support of the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten when it published cartoons derogatively depicting the Prophet Mohammed in 2005.

'Expression of pure racism'

The scheduled march has been criticized as provocative and racist by those on the left, with angry comments appearing on the event's Facebook page. Two residents of the Jarva area, Noah Nord and Emelie Mårtensson, claim that 'Jarva Pride' “pits two oppressed groups against each other,” and have organized a counter-demonstration.

One person to defend the march is evolutionary biologist and outspoken atheist Richard Dawkins, who slammed criticism of the event as emblematic of "the pathetic Left."

What do you think of this? Is a pride march racist, if it's put in such areas? Why does it matter who organizes it?

[Belize]

So it's labeled racist.... because of who's organizing it?

Sweden, you crazy.

[Jotaux]

I don't think it is racist for going through specific neighborhoods. I would be annoyed if a parade was going through my neighborhood though, it just causes a lot of traffic issues and generally makes my day shitty.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Sooooooooooo some people organizing this gay parade and now it's labeled racist?


WAT

[Deleted]

If they get provocated by this the fault is on them and ultra left ppl should shut up and let them do their business there.

[-aiko-]

Welllll I wouldn't consider it 'racist', but definitely uh...'provocative'? I hope they bring some form of protection in case bad things happen.

[Amirila]

Sweden is getting wayyyyyyy way too extreme with racist claims these days <.<

[Deleted]

Genuine question, if people don't like/support gay rights, will parading through their neighborhood really change their mind? seems like an exercise in futility to me, all you're going to do is cause traffic and piss them off even more.

[Garnier Fructis]

If we don't give Christians a free pass to shit on the LGBT crowd I don't see why we should give Muslims one.

[Deleted]

The people who say it's racist are homophobic so catch 21 smart move that's what you get for trying to whitewash fundamentalist believes in your immigrant community.

[Deleted]

If we don't give Christians a free pass to shit on the LGBT crowd I don't see why we should give Muslims one.

Why not? We've been giving them a free pass on everything else while shitting on other religions. I don't see this changing anytime soon.
Also Sweden. If it were anywhere else I'd be shocked.

[Calfredd]

The people who say it's racist are homophobic so catch 21 smart move that's what you get for trying to whitewash fundamentalist believes in your immigrant community.

Catch 21 is not a thing and Catch 22 doesn't apply here.

[Arewn]

So they're defending the muslim's communities right to discriminate, against the crowd they discriminate against, and labeling that crowd as being discriminatory?
That's just a whole lot of backwards going on.

[Endus]

So they're defending the muslim's communities right to discriminate, against the crowd they discriminate against, and labeling that crowd as being discriminatory?
That's just a whole lot of backwards going on.

Not really. This isn't a case where you have to pick a side.

Pride marches in general are fine. No issue with the concept of a pride march.
Deliberately siting your pride march to try and offend an ethnic group you feel will oppose it, though, is a dick move. Not because of the pride march, but because of your intent in where you want to hold it.
Lastly, being a homophobe that would be offended by a pride march isn't exactly tenable, either.

Being annoyed at everyone involved, on both sides, is totally a valid option.

[Independent voter]

I understand they have every right to march, but why poke a landmine with stick if you don't have to?

[Deleted]

Not really. This isn't a case where you have to pick a side.

Pride marches in general are fine. No issue with the concept of a pride march.
Deliberately siting your pride march to try and offend an ethnic group you feel will oppose it, though, is a dick move. Not because of the pride march, but because of your intent in where you want to hold it.
Lastly, being a homophobe that would be offended by a pride march isn't exactly tenable, either.

Being annoyed at everyone involved, on both sides, is totally a valid option.

In the case of this event one party is objectively more wrong from a perspective of civil libertys.

Your so called dick move is as much a dick move as counter protesting the westboro baptist church.

"Deliberately siting your pride march to try and offend an ethnic group you feel will oppose it, though, is a dick move."

That you would say this is mind boggling.

In the context of the event no there is only one party to side with even they can fight for a good cause once in a while.
It pisses of the right people.

If its deliberately made to cause violence this would be another issue but so far I see no indicator for this.

[Zecora]

Does anyone seriously think that this "Pride March" isn't being staged purely to provoke?

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Does anyone seriously think that this "Pride March" isn't being staged purely to provoke?

They have no business being provoked by this.

I have zero empathy for the people getting offended by it.

[Luxxor]

Being annoyed at everyone involved, on both sides, is totally a valid option.

Which is the answer to 99% of the threads on this forum.

[Zecora]

They have no business being provoked by this.

I have zero empathy for the people getting offended by it.

That has nothing to do with whether this is done purely to provoke a reaction. Of course no-one SHOULD react to this. But it is well known that someone will, and THAT is the reason why this is being done. Like it was pointed out, it's a dick move by douchbags trying to provoke other douchebags.