The Warrior hall is going to be a Vrykul Castle/hall.
Nothing more appropriate for warriors, since they have all that Norse/Valhalla theme.
The Warrior hall is going to be a Vrykul Castle/hall.
Nothing more appropriate for warriors, since they have all that Norse/Valhalla theme.
Goldshire Inn, CRZed to Moongaurd.
Probably Fray Island, as many have said.
An arena would fit the class quite well, I think.
Considering the Vyrkul/Viking theme, I could see the class hall being something like a Viking longhouse/badass drinking hall.
that'd be dope
Kickin Incredibly Dope Shit
But trying to say every Warrior, every Paladin, every Shaman, etc, hangs out with one another when they aren't on the battlefield? Give me a break.
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We are figuratively on the edge of annihilation every expac, and yet the alliance and the horde are still at war! (supposedly).
There's nothing wrong with big name NPCs working together, especially the ones who cross faction lines time and again so much they might as well be neutral (Khadgar, Thrall, etc).
But they preface the expansion with The Alliance and the Horde are still at War! Every expansion they try to rehype the faction war, but then they throw shit like this in and it becomes nonsensical.
Personally I don't care one way or another, but for the sake of story coherency they need to pick a side.
- Either the Alliance and Horde are pseudo friendly, and they take time off to smack each other around in arenas, "Argent Tournament" style;
- or they are enemies who attack on sight, and stop hanging out together in their off time.
Not necessarily "hanging out"; they're (part-time) working with members of their order to achieve a mutual goal.
No one is saying there won't be angst among their members, but for a short period of time, they are able to set aside an allegiance to focus on another.
We've seen classes from opposing factions come together before in the cult that is/was The Black Harvest.
Yeah, an obviously comedic video from MoP, and yet the first thing we did upon arriving, and actually throughout the entire expansion was fight the other faction. I also seem to recall Metzen citing the end of the "age of the whimsical panda", and that "war is coming back to warcraft". If I recall correctly that was almost verbatim the intro line for Warlord of Draenor.
*Funnily enough, story wise MoP actually had more faction war than any other expansion to date.*
Look, I'm not saying its not plausible for a couple people fighting to chill out and rest. Neutral towns kind of exemplify that fact, but in those cases, it's because of a third, neutral faction holding the peace. Like an uneasy armistice while you work against the true enemy.
What you don't see are the troops all forming class halls and hanging out together all the time. Class Halls aren't neutral bars, they are areas dedicated to X class, with class leaders and so on. They are essentially class specific guilds. If this is the thing, why do we even have factions anymore? Why am I not recruiting trolls into my Alliance guild?
Sure, you can force it in game and make it work; but it's just bad story telling. Put the war into warcraft... or take it out, stop half assing things.
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Yeah, with those few groups that transcend factions. But Class Halls don't do that. They are hang out spots, they are player/guild housing done by class instead, it's still bad story telling.
You conveniently leave out the fact that those groups only work towards their group interest, they don't participate in the actual faction war, while we still do. You are telling me that on Tuesday we are going to chill out in our class hall and swap Bladestorming tips, while Wednesday we are going to kill eachother in Warsong Gultch? Give me a break.
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Sorry to say, but we get the point. You are against Class Halls. Blizzard is putting them in. Tough luck. Could we nog discuss further on what those class halls would be and what we get to do there for the Warriors?
Sorry to say but it's a thread about Class Halls, and we don't know shit about shit about what we will do there (aside from the scant details given out) or where it will be. It's on topic discussion and I'd rather talk about things we know than wildly speculate about things we don't, but if you feel like you don't want to see it, feel free to ignore me.
No need to ignore you, class halls are coming, crusading against the concept is a lost cause already, and that even without the shit about shit we don't know
It really looks like they claim we're still at war just to keep people happy that have complained the last few years that the faction hatreds have gone stale.
In reality it seems more like the stage we were at in Wrath, both factions may not be allies but they aren't currently locked in a battle for resources and power until the universal threat at hand is taken care of. Nevertheless even if this were the case I agree that segregation should be apparent within the class halls (there is something posted on the front page about that idea now, hope they put the effort in for it).
In some cases it even seems silly to have different specs / disciplines of the same class together, for example warriors could easily be frothing, berserking, drunk maniacs suited to a tavern / arena, on the other hand they could be noble knights. When it comes to a class hall though we'll probably get something fitting with the frothing berserker concept though as (a) that's probably the majority and (b) paladins will probably get the "noble knight" treatment for their class hall.
Either a gym for comic effect, or a brawlers guild type of thing I'd be happy with
I'm not crusading against them. Have you even read anything I wrote?
I never said I hated them, I said the idea of them being faction neutral is silly, and (for other reasons), claiming the player is "in charge" is equally silly.
And, not saying it will happen, but if you think just because something was announced means it'll be in the final version of the game.... well I refer you to the Dance Studio, Bladespire/Karabor, Kargaths death, Grom as the final boss of Warlords, and so on.
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I hope there is at least one bench. Maybe in memory of Blackhand (mythic).
Soloing Wotlk/Cataclysm/MoP/WoD
http://www.youtube.com/user/thststth/videos
http://eu.battle.net/wow/de/characte...alker/advanced
http://de.twitch.tv/nightst314 >>Stream<<
The whole point of the strongholds is that the factions are failing the world in its greatest time of need. See, the expansion launches with a big battle at a place called "The Broken Front", where many of the worlds heroes are either dying (Tirion Fordring) or losing all hope and giving up (Thrall). Apparently the Legion really messes up Azeroth with their initial invasion. Despite this, Alliance and Horde continue their battling. So its up to the heroes to consolidate their forces and fight the real enemy: the burning legion.
Do bear in mind, these strongholds are not yours. You share them with others of your own class. Likewise its been confirmed that they will be separated in certain ways. For instance, the Paladin Stronghold will have at least three areas: one for traditional alliance paladins, one for sunwalkers, one for blood knights. So there will still be faction flavor.
Now, getting back to the subject at hand. I just really hope that the warrior stronghold isn't Orc themed: like on draenor or something. Assuming that the stronghold may have some minor connections to our weapons, I'm hoping the warrior hall is somewhere in Howling Fjord. I feel that Vrykul are sufficiently "warrior" enough that no one race would feel out of place in a Vrykul den. Its got a good mix of civilized and barbaric, and would hopefully further direct the warrior theme, which has been something that the class has needed ever since DK came and took a bit of their brutalness. Blizz has been struggling to nail down a theme for warriors and it shows with some our god awful armor sets. If it does end up being Vrykul, then that pretty much makes us the Diablo Barbarians of WoW, and thats good in my book.
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Its also fair noting that just because places were associated with warrior does not mean they are anymore. For instance, the Rogue stronghold is apparently in the Dalaran sewers, rather than Ravenholdt manor, which was far more iconic rogue that fray was for warrior.
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World needs more Goblin Warriors https://i.imgur.com/WKs8aJA.jpg