Arms Legion Discussion

[Deleted]

That's because you misunderstand how it works.. Simcraft stat weights are stupid and they increase the value of haste because it's thinking "OMFG look at that Haste breakpoint, I will value haste really highly so you go for it".. You add haste without hitting the breakpoint and you lose dps, but the moment you hit the breakpoint you gain a fuckload of dps and then it's like "fuck haste, shit stat".

This is what is happening.

I guess you missed the part where I said "lower DPS"

[Bigbazz]

I guess you missed the part where I said "lower DPS"

I guess you missed the part where I addressed that specifically. Reading comprehension, improve it.

[Deleted]

I guess you missed the part where I addressed that specifically. Reading comprehension, improve it.

This is what you said:

but the moment you hit the breakpoint you gain a fuckload of dps and then it's like "fuck haste, shit stat".

This is what I said:

>Haste >> Mastery
>Add haste gem
>Lower DPS
>Mastery >> haste

Meaning that I (supposedly) hit the haste breakpoint, still got lower dps, and mastery once again became more valuable than haste.

Reading comprehension etc.

[Anbokr]

Just got an 875 Ethereal Urn (mastery stat stick from Nightbane) but I already have an arcanocrystal and an 880 Spontaneous Appendages. What do you guys think is better?

Guess I should just sim it, but would love some input.

[Valdie]

So I was hoping someone would be willing to guide me with a relic choice. I got Ayala's, so a significant amount (30 %ish) of my damage is Execute. The simmed list at the Arms Compendium says Precise Strikes is roughly 25 ilvls > Deathblow in a void. I got 1x PS relic and 1 x EtW.


For my third relic, would an 870 PS really be better than an 875 DB even with Ayala's and 1x PS+EtW?

[Deleted]

Just got an 875 Ethereal Urn (mastery stat stick from Nightbane) but I already have an arcanocrystal and an 880 Spontaneous Appendages. What do you guys think is better?

Guess I should just sim it, but would love some input.

Depends. If the Arcano Crystal gets you to the Haste Breakpoint you'd wanna keep it (~23ish%). Otherwise the Stat stick should be better. The stat stick also has higher ilvl by 15 (i assume now, since u didnt say anything).

[Rhyzoh]

For my third relic, would an 870 PS really be better than an 875 DB even with Ayala's and 1x PS+EtW?

Personally I wouldn't since 875 -> 870 is losing 2 weapon ilvls. If it was 880 -> 875 you would only lose 1 ilvl then its probably worth

[Tatsujin]

So I was hoping someone would be willing to guide me with a relic choice. I got Ayala's, so a significant amount (30 %ish) of my damage is Execute. The simmed list at the Arms Compendium says Precise Strikes is roughly 25 ilvls > Deathblow in a void. I got 1x PS relic and 1 x EtW.


For my third relic, would an 870 PS really be better than an 875 DB even with Ayala's and 1x PS+EtW?

I'd go for the highest relic available right now. Sitting at 899.

[Godtier431]

Hey guys im thinking of playing a arms warrior for pvp is it any good in 2v2s or any 1v1s? would be nice to know for fury too.

[Xeley]

Hey guys im thinking of playing a arms warrior for pvp is it any good in 2v2s or any 1v1s? would be nice to know for fury too.

Good for 3s. Not 2s and 1s. Or BGs for that matter.

[Teaon]

i am really pissed that blizzard didnt even mention the most shitty gold trait, Shitty Cleave

what is this abomination, why it is even a gold trait? i swear sometimes i want to open a ticket to complain about it

like who is the smart(not) guy that made this shitty trait? either buff it or change it.

[Sorshen]

Void cleave is there to compensate for SD.

[Deleted]

Does latest simC know how to optimally use Collapsing Futures?

I decided to use it with the "All CD's '' macro,just at the bottom before MS. Considering that the debuff you get from the ring is 30 sec,that is pretty much the same time it takes BC to come back up,so it's a win win situation. where you avoid risking the 5 min CD trigger and you have 1 less button to press.

Overall the ring performs pretty well,doing around 1.5- 2% of my total damage, per encounter

I would put the proc at roughly 7-8k DPS increase

[Teaon]

Void cleave is there to compensate for SD.

it compesnated NOTHING, its useless

[Sorshen]

it compesnated NOTHING, its useless

Well, yea, SD is too good. Balance must be maintained ™

[Bigbazz]

All these people saying Void Cleave is useless, it's 1 point to pretty much double the damage of Cleave... It's not "that" useless when you look at it as one point instead of as a gold trait. It's not all that exciting, but it's not worth making such a big deal over either, other classes have meh traits too here and there, Fury has awesome ones that don't proc, lol.

[nyjl]

Cleave damage comes from a bonus for next WW, not from cleave damage itself. So it doesn't double it, it gives mere percents.

[Anbokr]

Void Cleave is just paying penance for how insane the other two golden dragons are.

[Xanthan]

I've had the good fortune of obtaining an 880 spiked counterweight. I also have an 880 ursoc rending paw. Sims show about a 3k gain using the counterweight over ursocs but I'm unsure if simc has the ursocs rending paw update. Can anyone confirm that this is acurate? I'm not near a haste breakpoint with or without the counterweight.

Ursoc's is underestimated by a bit at the moment. It's probably a few thousand DPS higher in reality. I don't think it'll be a big difference whichever you use, so just go with whatever you'd like now and re-test later.

[Deleted]

So what trinket is better here. 840 WQ Mastery or 880 Ursoc's Rending Paw?