Ability Pruning= WoW heading to console

[Tuesdays]

they'd need to cut all classes back to 4 buttons.

Not gunna happen. PC users will rage.

Nah L1/R1 could also be modifiers, companies don't care about PC users, they just want sales.

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Ironically the WoW input system was for joysticks at the expense of touchpads and graphics tablets unlike EVE Online from what I remember.

[swiftysarge]

just because YOU people don't think it's possible doesn't mean THEY don't.it's coming, when? i don't know but it's coming.

[Deleted]

Sometimes it amazes me the stuff people come up with

haha it's insane, but I mean we're on MMOchamp right?

[Orangetai420]

How would you assign all the abilities to the buttons of a controller? It would play like shit.

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I wish being stupid was a bannable offence.

[Tharkkun]

Well that kinda proves the point. It's terrible - an absolute unintuitive trainwreck - and no one in their right mind would want to do that. Some people do crazy shit out of some strange motivation. I could drive to the supermarket in reverse if I wanted. It is possible. The question is if it's any practicable and any fun at all.

Blizzard has very high playability and accessibility standards for this game. It's one of the key selling points and one of the reasons it became so madly successful in the first place.

How is that any different than someone who keybinds 100% of their abilities? Maybe for a full time clicker this would be a nightmare but someone proficient with using a controller this wouldn't be tough. It's all muscle memory.

[Pull My Finger]

How is that any different than someone who keybinds 100% of their abilities? Maybe for a full time clicker this would be a nightmare but someone proficient with using a controller this wouldn't be tough. It's all muscle memory.

How is that a question?

100% keybinds is already something that, looking at the big picture, hardly anyone does at all. It's also completely unnecessary. Again: it is doable, but the question isn't if it's humanly possible to pull it off, but if it's practicable. It is possible to do. But it also takes dedicated practice and quite some time to get it down. With more than questionable benefit. It's an extreme. A self-imposed specialist discipline, but by no means a valid standard control scheme for a game that's supposed to be playable by all kinds of folks.

Like I said: the game is supposed to be very easy to pick up and very intuitively playable. Blizzard would never ever go with a highly demanding control scheme as the default for the game to be even playable at all. The fact that some people can come up with, and master some obscure, difficult or convoluted method of playing the game does not mean that this method could serve as a standard way of playing the game.

It just isn't something that could be expected from the playerbase to put up with. The game has to be playable even by the most primitive means, like WASD + 100% clicking. It's up to the individual to refine their method over time, at their own pace. Or perhaps never evolve at all.

[Kallisto]

Why wouldn't it work that way? Pugs and lfr might have issues but for organized raiding simple but unforgiving is perfect. Current Mythic players might be unsatisfied but who cares?

Lots of improvements have been made to the gme and that's why legacy servers kind of suck (well that's one reason) but the increase in complexity to both encounter design and character design was not one of them.

Ok here is why it wouldn't work today.

With things like DBM a simple yet unforgiving one mechanic boss raids would be cleared within a month. This would essentially put raiding as even more simple as LFR. Seriously in another thread you're calling for mythic style tier drops to be accessable without raiding and now this? Do you even play wow or do you want to play a one button game with no actual use of the brain?

Best games are hard, they challenge they make people think, they don't cater to drooooooooooool one button hurray win types.

[Morbownz]

Why would Blizzard release a 10 year old game on a new platform?

[huehuehue]

Why would Blizzard release a 10 year old game on a new platform?

ooo did someone say vanilla? good call, lets start with vanilla while we're at it to appease the vanilla $erver crowd. replay expansions on console.



vanilla

[Dasani]

How could you ever do raiding with a controller? or pvp for that matter

They have to dumb it down and simplify the controls so idiots with a controller can stand a chance.

It is my biggest beef with games like Fallout 4 and Skyrim, anything that is made for consoles. The UI is complete and utter garbo, like years and years behind just because it has to be able to work for shit console people.

[Coils]

Cute theory, but thats all it is. Not worth the dev and conversion time to even bother, from a potential profit standpoint. Console owners don't want to pay MMO sub fees on top of PSN/Live sub fee. Real question is, who even wants this? Anyone who is playing WoW 11 years into its lifespan probably apprecites that PC is the platform for it. I wouldn't play it on console. How many new players would? Not many imo.

[anon5123]

I don't see how you could possibly play WoW on a console.

Like...playing a healer, how would you target allies? Even targeting 5 people for a dungeon would be a pain in the ass; targeting 20-30 would be impossible.

OP pls go.

[papajohn4]

After playing ffxiv on console, i could definitely play wow too...once you get used to it is very easy, relaxing and fun. I am sure going to console version if this ever happens

[ovm33]

Can't you get a mouse and keyboard for the current consoles? I know you could back with the PS2 which was the last console I had...

If so, package a cheap wireless mouse / keyboard combo with the port. Slap some WoW stickers on 'em and voila! Current consoles are nothing but mini PC's anyways, so the port shouldn't be "that" difficult if you don't have to figure out how to get a gamepad to work with it.

[Terahertz]

I don't think WoW would be a good console game. The reason why FFXIV even works remotely well on console is because its GCD is 2.5 sec opposed to WoW's 1.5-1 sec GCD.

Not only that, WoW has ground targeted abilities and a fair amount of off-GCD abilities.

[Berengil]

I really don't understand this worship of insane levels of complexity.

I'd really rather not need the reflexes of the Flash after 40 cups of coffee ( and muscle memory bordering on eidetic) to play the game.

Outside of mythic dungeons and raids, that is. make those as hard as you want; i'll never touch them.

[papajohn4]

Can't you get a mouse and keyboard for the current consoles? I know you could back with the PS2 which was the last console I had...

If so, package a cheap wireless mouse / keyboard combo with the port. Slap some WoW stickers on 'em and voila! Current consoles are nothing but mini PC's anyways, so the port shouldn't be "that" difficult if you don't have to figure out how to get a gamepad to work with it.

Yes you can. At least in ps4. No need of setup either or drivers, you just plug it in and it works.

[Armourboy]

Number of buttons or abilities isn't the issue, the biggest issue is the fact the core of the game was built over 11 years ago and not designed for it. When you consider the issues they've run into like the original bag size, you have to think that there is probably just more than that one buried in there.

At the end of the day I would have to believe that if they thought it was possible or even something they wanted to do they would have already of done it. I think going forward they will design more and more with it in mind, but I don't seem them wasting the development time to port it to console, especially considering just how long it takes them still just to get expansions out.