For or against Syrian refugees

[Twix]

Hey guys,

I am currently doing a study on Syrian refugees at university. I would like your opinion on the following: Are you for or against the government taking in Syrian refugees? You can explain in the comment section why you voted for or against in the poll.

Thanks and looking forward to your answers!

[Deleted]

Again.

Reasons:

The problems they have there should be dealt with and they should be in the mean time housed in a country that has the same moral values and norms as they do.
Housing them in Western countries where they won't ever fit in due to their religion / norms and values is just a bad idea and just asking for stuff to happen.
I also think that even if only 1 or 2 terrorists come with this giant group of people that is a risk I am not willing to take (thank god for the rest of you the government thinks differently).
Thirdly religion is an outdated concept and should be banned, the people coming into hour civilized countries are bringing a barbaric and disgusting religion with them and there is no place for that shit in a civilized world.

[Ryme]

I'm really not even close to educated enough on this, so feel free to pick apart my thoughts.

I'm in favour so long as we have a clear plan in place that includes: understanding who exactly we're sheltering, where they're to be sheltered, the net short term expected effects of this sheltering will have on the local populace are understood or can be explained to both parties.

Ideally an understanding that net contributions to the society at large need to be a long term factor in their ability to remain would be nice, but that seems a bit too idealistic.

[hakujinbakasama]

I'm neither for nor against honestly. I'm against the idea that it "has to be done." If they want to come here because they want our culture, then by all means jump on board baby. If they are being forced here because luck of the draw, then fuck no.

[Twix]

I'm neither for nor against honestly. I'm against the idea that it "has to be done." If they want to come here because they want our culture, then by all means jump on board baby. If they are being forced here because luck of the draw, then fuck no.

I'm not sure they all come here for our culture. Some of them are economically motived but I think the vast majority of them wants better opportunities for their children.

[Deleted]

Against it, they're a cost.

[announced]

against.
1) none of them actually assimilate. they just come in and form ghettos.
2. its a waste of taxpayer money
3) they fucked up their own country with their own nonsense and they should clean up their mess instead of country-shopping by heading to Germany/Sweden the welfare capitals of Europe. I dont want them anywhere near US/Canada either.

[Deleted]

Against.

Im ok with helping them I guess but we dont need to accept them as citizens for that. Why not make refugee camps in their own country, feed them, shelter them till the crisis is over and they can move back to their lives. Other than that, if they want to live in the west, share our culture etc. get a green card and immigrate through proper channels.

[ParanoiD84]

Syrians is fine it's all the afgans and Africans and what not, why should we take them all?

[TZucchini]

Yes we (the US) should accept them, and yes, they should be highly-vetted.

[arandomuser]

against.
3) they fucked up their own country with their own nonsense and they should clean up their mess instead of country-shopping by heading to Germany/Sweden the welfare capitals of Europe. I dont want them anywhere near US/Canada either.

Not true at all, we were funding islamist in syria all until people found out about isis. We greatly increased the problem by using islamist as a proxy war against assad and russia.

[Azadina]

I'm not sure they all come here for our culture. Some of them are economically motived but I think the vast majority of them wants better opportunities for their children.

You mean the ones (vast majority of refugees being 20-30 yo males) left behind along with their wives? Not buying it.

[Twix]

You mean the ones (vast majority of refugees being 20-30 yo males) left behind along with their wives? Not buying it.

I think Canada will mostly accept families from Syria. In Europe, it's a floodgate so not sure if those 20-30 yo males plan to marry and have children.

[zenkai]

Against , if you don't fight for your home you don't deserve one

[A Chozo]

For, but with a heavy, almost sci-fi-eske culture adaptation.

[Deleted]

I am for;

Provided that people are screened, and are helped with the integration process.

The biggest issue with any imminent is being placed into a cultural ghetto, where assimilation does not happen and bad cultural norms are fostered.

That's exactly what is happening in Germany.

Taking in refugees isn't the issue. How many is one.

[hakujinbakasama]

Against , if you don't fight for your home you don't deserve one

Yeah, they should have fought for it with all those guns they weren't allowed to have. Wait, they're good at stoning people to death. Yeah they should have been fine against Gas and Tanks.

[Goondicker]

Against.

I would love to be for it. Unfortunately, a lot of innocent children will suffer without help, but it can't be at the expense of Americans. Our current refugee system is garbage.

Having said that, I'd be all for taking children into foster homes, etc. But keep the adults and their shit smearing out until we can achieve a more effective system.

[Gwiez]

1. They are the victims of Daesh, and we should have as much sympathy for them as we do for the Parisians.
2. Daesh wants to have dominions over all Muslims (they even crowned themselves a caliph) so they can have a Us vs Them doomsday way. Muslims living in the West upsets them and their delusions more than us bombing them.
3. Even in a spirit of complete self interest, it's good for us in the long run. People living in a stable environment, with relatively normalcy are a lot less likely to be recruited.
3a. It will be a short term risk, not because Daesh would be sneaking in, but because of #2. We would be more of a target because Daesh wants us to retaliate against all Muslims. It's a shame that so many people want to give Daesh exactly what they want. I guess courage and leadership are just slogans for them, not actual ideas.

[Independent voter]

Muslims do better than the average American in the US. I don't know how well Syrians will do but Lebanese, Jordanians and Iranians do really well here, I mean many of these people are rich.

Currently unemployment in the US is really, really low, 5% which is about as low as it ever gets. There's jobs waiting for Syrians if they get here. We've got 1.6 million refugees currently living in the US, what's a few more?

Screening for terrorism is a necessary problem. The US is more of a target than other countries so there is that.