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    Creation Theory + supporting scientific evidence

    While there's a mention of god etc, this man focuses more on what the scientific basis is for creation, rather than faith or religion.
    Some might already know this guy, and I know many of you probably won't agree with this guy. But the latter is only because I am very certain supporters of the evolution religion will not watch all of these videos in their entirety with a fair and open mind (which you should). Most of you will simply skip through the movies, picking out certain quotes I am sure. Regardless, I hope there's atleast 1 of you out there who watches this stuff all the way. And once you're done, watch the debates on his channel, where he debates scientists and professors from universities (even 1 vs 3) and wins all of them.

    If you're going to lock this thread, or ban me, know that it is entirely unfair. Lock the evolution threads too.

    It baffles me, how a big part of the world can look at our DNA CODE (CODE!), SYSTEMS of our nature, SYSTEMS of beings or all the beings, all the comlexity, and all the right circumstances and order in the universe, and say "WOAH, IT ALL GOT CREATED BY PURE CHANCE OUT OF NOTHING OUT OF THE BLUE"and at the same time, people can look at a simple device as a watch and say "woah this creator did a nice job".

    The Kent Hovind Creation Seminar (1 of 7): The Age of the Earth
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shyI...YfFFmmAdvwcnCT

    The Kent Hovind Creation Seminar (2 of 7): The Garden of Eden
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbqt...vwcnCT&index=2

    The Kent Hovind Creation Seminar (3 of 7): Dinosaurs and the Bible
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrkY...YfFFmmAdvwcnCT

    The Kent Hovind Creation Seminar (4 of 7): Lies in the Textbooks
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Ol...vwcnCT&index=4

    The Kent Hovind Creation Seminar (5 of 7): The Dangers of Evolution
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN31...YfFFmmAdvwcnCT

    The Kent Hovind Creation Seminar (6 of 7): The Hovind Theory
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfff...YfFFmmAdvwcnCT

    The Kent Hovind Creation Seminar (7a of 7): Questions & Answers
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cEU...vwcnCT&index=7

    The Kent Hovind Creation Seminar (7b of 7): Questions & Answers
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2gr...YfFFmmAdvwcnCT

    The Kent Hovind Creation Seminar (7c of 7): Questions & Answers
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZQd...vwcnCT&index=9

    The Kent Hovind Creation Seminar (7d of 7): Questions & Answers
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7O2...YfFFmmAdvwcnCT

    The Kent Hovind Creation Seminar (7e of 7): Questions & Answers
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Ca...YfFFmmAdvwcnCT


    Edit: In addition, this isn't the only "proof" for creation. There are things such as bible prophecy and filosophy (filosophy IS important) and theology which we sadly cannot discuss here. But the ENTIRE picture only leads to one conclusion.

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    Have you had biology at atleast minimum collage level ? If one side has to prove something and the other doesnt because face it he cant prove god is around... How can there even be a discussion ?

    It's like me arguing that the middle of the earth is a blob of candy and burden is on you to prove its not. You cant because noone has been to the center of earth hence i would win the argument while presenting pure crap that cant be proved.

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    If you're going to lock this thread, or ban me, know that it is entirely unfair. Lock the evolution threads too.
    Religion is a banned topic, science isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vmeisters View Post
    Edit: In addition, this isn't the only "proof" for creation. There are things such as bible prophecy and filosophy (filosophy IS important) and theology which we sadly cannot discuss here. But the ENTIRE picture only leads to one conclusion.
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    There are things such as bible prophecy and filosophy (filosophy IS important)
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    filosophy
    what the fuck, come on man at least try to be a good troll.
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    There is no "creation theory". In science a theory is much more than an idea some guy thought up. Also, Kent Hovind has been proven wrong time and time again and a lot of what he claims as facts are simply wrong. Kent Hovind is a simple minded con man. Please don't do yourself the disservice of beginning to take him seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vmeisters View Post

    If you're going to lock this thread, or ban me, know that it is entirely unfair. Lock the evolution threads too.
    This bullshit you posted isn't even close to the same thing. Creation theory isn't scientific at all.
    IT ALL GOT CREATED BY PURE CHANCE OUT OF NOTHING OUT OF THE BLUE
    I mean this statement alone proves you don't understand evolution at all. You can't dress up religious text and slap on theory on the end and expect people to take you seriously.

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    If you open your mind too much, your brain might fall out.

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    Took me 14 years of listening to priests to abandon their unsubstantiated beliefs.
    No, I will not subject myself to a seminar on YEC: because I'm not an imbecile.

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    someone seems butthurt about the evolution thread.

    please don't be so stupid to mix religion with science, they're enemies because you want to use science to prove tiny aspects of religion right, when it just makes so much of religion look like it's talking utter bullshit.

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    If this guy was right, he'd already have collected his Nobel Prize. All it takes is one single shred of evidence to dispute evolution, and he simply doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vmeisters View Post
    It baffles me, how a big part of the world can look at our DNA CODE (CODE!), SYSTEMS of our nature, SYSTEMS of beings or all the beings, all the comlexity, and all the right circumstances and order in the universe, and say "WOAH, IT ALL GOT CREATED BY PURE CHANCE OUT OF NOTHING OUT OF THE BLUE"and at the same time, people can look at a simple device as a watch and say "woah this creator did a nice job".
    There's a lot of things I don't understand either, but luckily science does not depend on my opinion of it to function or be right.

    The way you try to present the idea of evolution here makes it seem like you have no clue what it is.

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    Lol... we (= life on this planet) might have been created by someone (not god). That's a possibility. But the world isn't 6000 years old and all that crap bible says.
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    That and I find it hilarious you think this guy is even qualified to talk about science at all. Seeing
    Although he styles himself "Dr. Kent Hovind" or "Dr. Dino", all Hovind's known degrees are from unaccredited institutions.
    he has no real education at all.

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    "Debates vs Uni Proffessors and wins all of them"

    I wouldn't say that. More like he went LALALALALALA YOU CAN'T PROVE ME WRONG.

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    Kent E. Hovind (born January 15, 1953) is an American Christian fundamentalist evangelist and tax protester. He is a controversial figure in the Young Earth creationist movement and his ministry focuses on attempting to convince listeners to deny scientific theories including evolution, geophysics, and cosmology in favor of a literalist interpretation of the Genesis creation narrative found in the Bible. Hovind's views, which combine elements of creation science and conspiracy theory, are dismissed by the scientific community as fringe theory and pseudo-scholarship. He has been criticized by Young Earth Creationist organizations like Answers in Genesis for his continued use of discredited arguments that have been abandoned by others in the movement.

    Hovind established Creation Science Evangelism (CSE) in 1989 and Dinosaur Adventure Land in 2001 in Pensacola, Florida. He frequently spoke on Young Earth creationism in schools, churches, debates, and on radio and television broadcasts. His son Eric Hovind took over operation of CSE after Kent began serving a ten-year prison sentence in January 2007 for federal court convictions for failing to pay taxes, obstructing federal agents, and structuring cash transactions. In a separate federal court case in early 2015, a federal court jury found Hovind guilty of contempt of court in connection with a charge of disobeying a prior court order, but the trial Court rejected the guilty verdict and rendered a judgment of acquittal in favor of Hovind, stating that there was no language in the prior court order that Hovind could be found, as a matter of law, to have disobeyed.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Hovind

    Check out the section on his legal problems, long as your arm. Guy is a straight up shonk.

    Note that this is not argumentum ad hominem, because I don't think his arguments require a response at all.
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    "WOAH, IT ALL GOT CREATED BY PURE CHANCE OUT OF NOTHING OUT OF THE BLUE"
    There is a monkey that would like to talk to you. He, and an infinite number of his buddies, given infinite time and resources, expect to be able to reproduce the Bible.

    Given near infinity, the amazing thing isn't the complexity of life, but rather that some believe that it has only happened once.
    With COVID-19 making its impact on our lives, I have decided that I shall hang in there for my remaining days, skip some meals, try to get children to experiment with making henna patterns on their skin, and plant some trees. You know -- live, fast, dye young, and leave a pretty copse. I feel like I may not have that quite right.

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    Just don't bite. That's all you have to do. Walk away.

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    Those videos were mildly entertaining, there are some good laughs.
    Though it is depressing when you realise that this level of ignorance is actually dangerous in a number of ways.

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    and say "WOAH, IT ALL GOT CREATED BY PURE CHANCE OUT OF NOTHING OUT OF THE BLUE
    You have not even the slightest idea about life, biology or evolution, and neither does your "doctor".

    Your ignorance, arrogance and petty strawman declarations do not impress anyone.

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