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    Trump's GOP will be the liberal/left-wing party this campaign - Washington Post

    As one comment said: The parties are flipping. GOP is becoming the party looking out for working people + middle class. Dems the party for the elites.

    Trump is standing up for freedom of speech, campaign finance reform and transparency. Hillary is running on a platform of dog whistling, and playing the race and women's card.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...html?tid=sm_fb
    How Donald Trump is running to the left of Hillary Clinton
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    On a series of issues, including free trade and foreign military intervention, Trump is effectively running to the left not only of his own party but also of Clinton.

    For weeks, Trump has openly praised Sanders, crediting the senator from Vermont for raising questions about the former secretary of state’s judgment on campaign finance, trade and foreign policy. He has also pointed to Sanders’s questioning of Clinton’s qualifications as a sign that the topic is fair game.

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    “Now, I’m no fan of Bernie Sanders, but he is 100 percent right,” Trump told a crowd here this weekend. “He is 100 percent right: Hillary Clinton is totally controlled by the people that put up her money. She’s totally controlled by Wall Street.”

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    Needless to say, I'm thinking about voting for Trump to give a middle finger to everyone right now. Especially the democratic primary voters who didn't vote for Bernie.

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    HA! In the GOP's dreams. They're still the party of oppressive, regressive social programs and Trump isn't going to change it. Sure, we might have a more libertarian-leaning Republican president who favors free enterprise and dumps the regressive religious right, but that's not going to be a permanent change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    HA! In the GOP's dreams. They're still the party of oppressive, regressive social programs and Trump isn't going to change it. Sure, we might have a more libertarian-leaning Republican president who favors free enterprise and dumps the regressive religious right, but that's not going to be a permanent change.
    Trump won the primary and, in doing so, literally proved the GOP is not a party of oppressive regressive social programs or religious zealotry. If they were, they would have voted Cruz. It is a very loud, very angry, very small minority and it is only getting smaller every day.

    Now that Trump has proven you don't have to talk about how much God hates fags and is going to destroy America for our sins to win the Republican nomination, you can expect the GOP will absolutely go through some big changes over the next four years.

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    Trump is still a right-wing candidate. But it's cultural identity right-wing like Europe, not the traditional US religious and economic right wing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Trump won the primary and, in doing so, literally proved the GOP is not a party of oppressive regressive social programs or religious zealotry. If they were, they would have voted Cruz. It is a very loud, very angry, very small minority and it is only getting smaller every day.

    Now that Trump has proven you don't have to talk about how much God hates fags and is going to destroy America for our sins to win the Republican nomination, you can expect the GOP will absolutely go through some big changes over the next four years.
    Religious zealotry? No, more like extreme xenophobia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Trump won the primary and, in doing so, literally proved the GOP is not a party of oppressive regressive social programs or religious zealotry. If they were, they would have voted Cruz. It is a very loud, very angry, very small minority and it is only getting smaller every day.

    Now that Trump has proven you don't have to talk about how much God hates fags and is going to destroy America for our sins to win the Republican nomination, you can expect the GOP will absolutely go through some big changes over the next four years.
    Oh please. Trump hasn't proven anything. He won the election with racist nationalism. The fact that he went after brown people instead of the gays doesn't change anything. Beyond that, Trump is only one person, the vast majority of the GOP still favors the religious right.
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    No one will believe him.

    It's ingrained into the public conscience that Trump is the crazed far right's wet dream.

    You cannot just shift platforms in the middle of election. Not with the internet broadcasting to the entire world everything you said and done during the primaries.
    Internet forums are more for circlejerking (patting each other on the back) than actual discussion (exchange and analysis of information and points of view). Took me long enough to realise ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    Oh please. Trump hasn't proven anything. He won the election with racist nationalism. The fact that he went after brown people instead of the gays doesn't change anything. Beyond that, Trump is only one person, the vast majority of the GOP still favors the religious right.
    Most people voted for him because they want companies to stop exporting jobs overseas and to stop using illegal immigrants instead of hiring American workers. Oh and to beat the shit out of ISIS instead of doing what appears to be nothing/jack all.
    Last edited by ramjb; 2016-05-10 at 03:26 AM.

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    The Democratic Party, throughout history, has ALWAYS been the party for the elite
    They have always served the interests of the elite, they stood in the way of abolishing slavery (which is what started the Republican Party)

    And they stood in the way of the civil right's movement, now they promote being professional victims and double standards because the elite benefit off of a country divided fighting amongst each other over fabricated BS "social issues"

    In short, democrats now use minorities as political pawns

    K I'm done lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by SodiumChloride View Post
    No one will believe him.

    It's ingrained into the public conscience that Trump is the crazed far right's wet dream.

    You cannot just shift platforms in the middle of election. Not with the internet broadcasting to the entire world everything you said and done during the primaries.
    Oh you can certainly bet there will be people who will gobble this nonsense up like candy.

    The OP is one of them. Trump's hardcore fans will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    Oh please. Trump hasn't proven anything. He won the election with racist nationalism. The fact that he went after brown people instead of the gays doesn't change anything. Beyond that, Trump is only one person, the vast majority of the GOP still favors the religious right.

    I love how you SJWs pin racist on anyone who believes in national sovereignty

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramjb View Post
    Most people voted for him because they want companies to stop exporting jobs overseas and to stop using illegal immigrants instead of hiring American workers.
    You mean, the things he has done and is currently doing?

    That's very convincing, if a murderer with fresh bloodied knife in his hands walks up to me and preaches to me about the importance of human life
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    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    Oh please. Trump hasn't proven anything. He won the election with racist nationalism. The fact that he went after brown people instead of the gays doesn't change anything. Beyond that, Trump is only one person, the vast majority of the GOP still favors the religious right.
    Technically Trump hasn't won yet. If you're so sure about what GOP voters want, why don't you go run for the nomination. You can still force a contested convention and end up booting Trump, since you seem to be so omniscient about what GOP voters want.

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    Trump is hated by ALL the elite that should tell you he is doing something right, I can't understand why bernouts won't vote for him when their candidate inevitably loses the nomination to satan's sister hillary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zolaris192 View Post
    I love how you SJWs pin racist on anyone who believes in national sovereignty
    Nationalism is borderline racism. Learn your political spectrums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ramjb View Post
    As one comment said: The parties are flipping. GOP is becoming the party looking out for working people + middle class. Dems the party for the elites.

    Trump is standing up for freedom of speech, campaign finance reform and transparency. Hillary is running on a platform of dog whistling, and playing the race and women's card.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...html?tid=sm_fb
    How Donald Trump is running to the left of Hillary Clinton
    Nonsense. Trump is not free speech, see proposals to change libel laws, demands the reporters be fired, law suits to silence people who use his own words in an ad.
    Trump is for campaign finance reform till he needs the money and is now building his own trough using a former Goldman Sachs executive and investment Fund Manager to oversee it.
    Trump is for transparency but won't release his tax records. Give me a break.

    Being against Free Trade and against foreign military invention hardly makes you left wing. Pat Buchanan holds both those positions as well. Is he left wing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    HA! In the GOP's dreams. They're still the party of oppressive, regressive social programs and Trump isn't going to change it. Sure, we might have a more libertarian-leaning Republican president who favors free enterprise and dumps the regressive religious right, but that's not going to be a permanent change.
    Don't be so sure. Trump has brought more republicans out to vote, for and against him then in recent history. A lot of the far right people, like my parents are older then sand and they won't be around for much longer. What you have left is a large working class (53% of all jobs in America pay 30k or less) facing higher skill requirements and competition with H1-B visa's to climb the ladder. The bottom of the ladder is being eaten away by the exportation of industry and the import of automation. This is magnified ever more so by local/state leaders willing to take huge campaign donations to legislate or pave the way for industry to flee the US with special tax exemptions. Combine that with across the board pay cuts (excluding CEOs), cost of living increases, and rising costs of education. More people on the right are worried about the fiscal issues then they are the social issues, only the very far right are drawing lines in the sand about social issues like gay marriage and abortions. The GOP, right now, whether people see it or not, is in a phase of rebranding
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    Quote Originally Posted by ramjb View Post
    As one comment said: The parties are flipping. GOP is becoming the party looking out for working people + middle class. Dems the party for the elites.

    Trump is standing up for freedom of speech, campaign finance reform and transparency. Hillary is running on a platform of dog whistling, and playing the race and women's card.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...html?tid=sm_fb
    How Donald Trump is running to the left of Hillary Clinton
    You mean like every other candidate that is not Cruz? Geez people need for read other candidates. Trump is the only candidate who has built his campaign insulting other candidates. Devolving into vague conspiracy theories that has little to no evidence to back up. And provides little to no details on his plans and even then they are bad ideas.
    - deportation of 11 million people? Nope it would cost 600 billion dollars and in the long term it would reduces gdp by 1.5 trillion dollars and cut us growth by 5%
    - wall? I think this has been already explained.
    - commit war crimes?
    - reduce businesses taxes by 15%? Nope as it resembles the dangerous trickle down policy which has been proven to be a failure.
    Trump is everything but a left wing politician.
    Last edited by Bollocks; 2016-05-10 at 03:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zolaris192 View Post
    K I'm done lol
    That's good, because you didn't actually make a point worth reading.

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