People that bitch about their home nation

[Deleted]

Firstly I aren't talking about people with legitimate concerns who try to change for the better nor am I saying any one country is perfect BUT I really find people that constantly bitch about their own country as terrible but actively chooses to remain and not change anything incredibly annoying. I obviously understand certain things can annoy but imo people who constantly bitch about their country and chooses not to do anything can GTFO

[Gadion]

Firstly I aren't talking about people with legitimate concerns who try to change for the better nor am I saying any one country is perfect BUT I really find people that constantly bitch about their own country as terrible but actively chooses to remain and not change anything incredibly annoying. I obviously understand certain things can annoy but imo people who constantly bitch about their country and chooses not to do anything can GTFO

Before I go on a rant, let me first ask you something... What do you mean by "legitimate concerns" and "actively chooses to remain and not change anything"?

[the game]

what about when people bitch about other countries?

[Kalis]

Where do people who choose to leave but still bitch about their home nation fit into it?

[Deja Thoris]

So you get to decide what legitimate concerns are?

[Trollokdamus]

If your country has some major flaws and you are in no position to change anything (and will never be for various reasons), there really isn't much to do but bitch about it.

[Swizzington]

I know what you mean. A friend of mine constantly talks about moving to Canada or Australia, but never has and probably never will, he's full of shit. Some people just love to whine and complain.

[Deleted]

So you get to decide what legitimate concerns are?

Yes im omnipresent dictator

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If your country has some major flaws and you are in no position to change anything (and will never be for various reasons), there really isn't much to do but bitch about it.

Move? It isn't impossible

[Cradyz]

Some people just are dumb, bitter or lazy dipshits. Some people just like to complain to make themselves feel better about their shitty lives. These people will always exist and always have. Don't get all worked up, it's pointless. Arguing with them is impossible as their opinions aren't based on a nuanced weighing of rational arguments. Just ignore them and spare yourself the wasted time and effort.

[Thunderball]

If your country has some major flaws and you are in no position to change anything (and will never be for various reasons), there really isn't much to do but bitch about it.

You are always in a position to change something. I just depends on how far are you willing to go with it. Thing is, most people who constantly complain are too lazy to even start with themselves.

[Chrysia]

Move? It isn't impossible

This depends entirely on a) your home nation b) your marketable skills and c) the availability of jobs that employ your marketable skills in the target country. While it's not technically impossible for anyone, any or all of those factors can make it feasibly impossible for huge swaths of the population.

[Wildtree]

Well, he's got a point.
There are a lot of people that bitch about their country, or some aspects of it to such an extent, that if they'd spend about 10% of that time on trying to actually do something about it, things had a chance to get better.
A lotta talking, but no walking.

[owbu]

I am pretty sure everyone who bitches about his country thinks that he is having legitimate complaints

[Trollokdamus]

Move? It isn't impossible

Thing is, even if you move, at heart you will still be a part of your country and people to some degree, so you'll still be depressed about what's happening at your former home.

[Kalis]

Move? It isn't impossible

It is not always easy or practical.

For example, if you wanted to leave England, where would you go? You need a country that is better than the one you live in, so that rules out a huge chunk of other countries and you do not speak a language that anyone outside of your region understands, so that rules out the rest of the world.

[Independent voter]

We're very isolationist in the US so we don't have any foreigners to point out our flaws. The left wing decided to take this task on, telling us how much we suck. Now since we have internet and have finally met some foreigners online the left sounds treasonous.

[Wildtree]

This depends entirely on a) your home nation b) your marketable skills and c) the availability of jobs that employ your marketable skills in the target country. While it's not technically impossible for anyone, any or all of those factors can make it feasibly impossible for huge swaths of the population.

Not discarding your reasons now. Don't get me wrong.
But moving is possible for everyone who isn't bound to special care.
All the arguments you've listed only apply to ease of transition. Not to the move itself

[ItachiZaku]

This is my home "land", so I wouldn't be really going anywhere. Though, my Rez is in canada. It's far better than it is on the bad side, imo, especially compared to most other places and the transition to those other places that might be better is too daunting of a thought for me.

[Trollokdamus]

You are always in a position to change something. I just depends on how far are you willing to go with it. Thing is, most people who constantly complain are too lazy to even start with themselves.

One simply can't change the people's way of thinking and mentality, which has been forming for hundreds of years, no matter how hard he tries.

[Chrysia]

Not discarding your reasons now. Don't get me wrong.
But moving is possible for everyone who isn't bound to special care.
All the arguments you've listed only apply to ease of transition. Not to the move itself

...I addressed this specifically in my post. There's a difference between technically possible and feasible. When most people say "possible" in a context like this, they mean feasible.

I'll give you an extreme example. It's not feasible for North Koreans to move out of North Korea. For all intents and purposes, it is generally viewed as impossible, because exceptions are so rare and require phenomenal circumstances and determination.