Does metal create satanists?
Is rock and roll the devils music?
Will my friend who listens to country lose his car, his wife, his dog, and go to jail after a bar fight?
You keep bringing up that analogy, but I don't think it makes much sense to be honest.
Video games are fictional characters in fictional worlds, they're usually not made by Black people for (mainly) Black people. And perhaps most importantly they do not expose children to these very specific cultural problems, i.e the inner city culture, and glorify them.
Yes, that's exactly what I meant?
I should have clarified what I meant with create I'm sorry. It creates it in the sense that it glorifes a very negative lifestyle and generates a level of acceptance as a result. It generates very bad role models.
The lyrics are of course part of it, however. When you hear them singing about commiting crime and getting rich off it, that's a part of the problem.
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And yet the music is far more real than the games could ever be.
The music is made by Black people, for Black people, about Black people. It's personal. It's part of their identity. And that's what makes it dangerous. It gives the downtrodden the idea that's all they can ever be. It gives them the impression they can't be successful, law abiding citizens.
Video games don't come close to being comparable.
I think what society at large fails to understand is that the contuining disadvantage of Black people is as much a cultural problem (as in their culture), as it is an economonic one.
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Video games are very comparable, as are movies (another form of media people assume causes violence).And yet the music is far more real than the games could ever be.
The music is made by Black people, for Black people, about Black people. It's personal. It's part of their identity. And that's what makes it dangerous.
Video games don't come close to being comparable.
Are you now calling music dangerous?
Let me requote my self from a bit earlier.
Does metal create satanists?
Is rock and roll really the devils music? Will it promote teen pregnancy!
Will my friend who listens to country music lose his house, his car, his wife, his dog, and go to jail after a bar fight?
The people we need to reach are much more likely to listen to Snoop than even Obama.
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"This will be a fight against overwhelming odds from which survival cannot be expected. We will do what damage we can."
-- Capt. Copeland
And I fail to see how it can be so different from all other forms of media. Especially very visual and graphic ones, one of which lets you simulate illegal actions.
And Norwegian death metal is made by Norwegians, for Norwegians, and its a part of the culture.... and its a pretty fucking peaceful country.
I wonder how it's going to turn out.
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Mario isn't a real person. Zelda isn't a real person. The main characters in GTA are not real people. Master Chief isn't a real person. Ash isn't a real person. Duke Nukem isn't a real person. Thrall isn't a real person.
Snoop Dog is a real person. Dr Dre is a real person. Biggie Smalls is a real dead person. 2Pac is a real dead person. 50 Cent is a real person. Ice Cube is a real person.
So which ones do you think is going to hold more sway over an impressionable mind? The video game character that only really shows up on your gaming machine? Or the rapper that's spreading his message on TV (MTV, reality shows, the news, talk shows, movies), youtube, radio, concerts, clothing, and magazines?
I for one know that if I follow what they do in GTA, I'll be shot dead. I know I won't get coins from jumping up and hitting bricks with my fist.
But for someone that is poorly educated, seeing a real life person telling them to commit crimes cause then they'll make it big is a real thing and more believable in their mind.
I also brought up movies and other genres of music. Video games are meant to immerse the player themselves. The player does the acts in the game, the player does the illegal action, the player commits the war crimes
but its all digital
just like songs can be about illegal action, but its just lyrics. Its less hands on, its very passive.
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Music is not the creator of the issue.