Havoc in Legion: 7.2.5 Guide

[Faenlyn]

Itemlevel 876
38,46% Crit
13,12% Haste
4,73% Versatility
20.07% Mastery

Currently equipped:
Bloodthirsty Instinct 865 with socket (150 agi)
Eye of Command 860

Got today:
Eye of Guarm, Heroic Warforged 880
1631 Agility
1043 Crit

I have no Idea what to switch. I think it's eye of command, but I am not sure.

You can see from the above posted trinkets figure that at 860 item level BI and EC are fairly equal to each other. Now factor in that your bloodthirsty instinct is 5 ilevels higher than your eye of command PLUS it has a socket which is the equivalent in agi of another 10 item levels or so then it becomes clear your Bloodthirsty instinct is better than your eye of command by far

[Accendor]

Ah, my question was badly phrased. Correct would be: Is it worth switching at all?

[Raiju]

Assuming you aren't empowering the eye of command it should be a clear switch to Guarm's, meaning you should run Bloodthirsty Instinct + Eye of Guarm.

@terpthree Memento is a bit of an RNG lottery - it can give you the best logs but I dislike the lack of consistency.

[aGit]

anyone know why simulationcraft (710-02) doesn't seem to take the chaos burn (the 35th trait, 5% increase to all damage) into account? i simmed 420k before and 420k now. I mean it says there, that i have the trait on my artifact, it just that the 5% is not applied into anything at all.

[Deleted]

anyone know why simulationcraft (710-02) doesn't seem to take the chaos burn (the 35th trait, 5% increase to all damage) into account? i simmed 420k before and 420k now. I mean it says there, that i have the trait on my artifact, it just that the 5% is not applied into anything at all.

Do you have the ring? Because that was what happened to me: got my 35th trait right as they "fixed" the ring on live which was a ~5% nerf.

[aGit]

Do you have the ring? Because that was what happened to me: got my 35th trait right as they "fixed" the ring on live which was a ~5% nerf.

no i don't have the ring.

[Deleted]

Chaos Strike Relic, is that one better than TG now? It feels like you get more out of CS than TG lately, does anyone know?

[Deleted]

Hello, I have just now received my third legendary, which brings doubts about what to equip and when.

I have the fury legendary ring (Angry of the half giants), the legendary chest (Achor's hunger?) and just received Sephuz.

So, I have a 865 crit+haste ring and a 865 crit+haste chest, the difference is that the legen chest gives me around 1400 agility which the ring doesn't. In exchange the ring let's me have every pull on a mythic+ 15 % haste. I'd be using the talent that reduces CD of the stun instead of throw glaive if I equip sephuz.

What do you think, does it compensate the extremely loss of agility? I don't care that much about stamina (though it's one of the most important stats in mythics of high level), and sephuz gives way more crit than Achor, and a use that is better too.

So what do you think?

[glorf12]

Hello, I have just now received my third legendary, which brings doubts about what to equip and when.

I have the fury legendary ring (Angry of the half giants), the legendary chest (Achor's hunger?) and just received Sephuz.

So, I have a 865 crit+haste ring and a 865 crit+haste chest, the difference is that the legen chest gives me around 1400 agility which the ring doesn't. In exchange the ring let's me have every pull on a mythic+ 15 % haste. I'd be using the talent that reduces CD of the stun instead of throw glaive if I equip sephuz.

What do you think, does it compensate the extremely loss of agility? I don't care that much about stamina (though it's one of the most important stats in mythics of high level), and sephuz gives way more crit than Achor, and a use that is better too.

So what do you think?

Don't ever drop Master of the Glaive. It is straight up the best talent regardless of situation. Just spend the fury on Chaos Nova.
If you really want to know for certain which is better, run your own sims.

[Deleted]

Don't ever drop Master of the Glaive. It is straight up the best talent regardless of situation. Just spend the fury on Chaos Nova.
If you really want to know for certain which is better, run your own sims.

I don't have clear if the sims take full account of the equip of sephuz in every pull.

If I sim myself with sephuz it gives me 399160 dps
If I sim myself with Achor it gives me 406525 dps
The difference is around 6000 dps in a patchwerk style fight, where you would never use the ability of the sephuz.

[Yhcti]

Typed all this on my phone then it crashes and I lose it all fuck yeah.

Had a few questions..

1) blur change... How much does it affect us?
2) stat prio still crit?
3) felblade and first blood buffs enough to warrant them solid spots in our talent choice?
4) pvp, fel eruption & foti could do insane damage, anyone tested this?

Demonic buff is making qol for soloplay so much nicer.. felblade is also a welcome change. Fury nerf sucks but everything else I'm happy with.

[Deleted]

Typed all this on my phone then it crashes and I lose it all fuck yeah.

Had a few questions..

1) blur change... How much does it affect us?
2) stat prio still crit?
3) felblade and first blood buffs enough to warrant them solid spots in our talent choice?
4) pvp, fel eruption & foti could do insane damage, anyone tested this?

Demonic buff is making qol for soloplay so much nicer.. felblade is also a welcome change. Fury nerf sucks but everything else I'm happy with.

1) Hurts momentum build which heavy relies on the reset to maintain momentum uptime.
2) More than ever, if you don't want to be more fury starvet than a DH without the ring on live right now.
3) Yes, as a single target build they seem to be the new go to now.
4) Dunno.

[neck deep]

a lot of the bis nighthold items were changed in stats in tonights build. a lot of crit pieces were turned into not crit pieces, and our tier set choices are likely to change.

[Vanyali]

a lot of the bis nighthold items were changed in stats in tonights build. a lot of crit pieces were turned into not crit pieces, and our tier set choices are likely to change.

When 7.1.5 hits there'll be a mass overhaul of the BiS, given the (many) changes; don't want to shift things until everything is more set.

[rhackin]

"Cinidaria, the Symbiote - Additional damage is no longer in the Physical school"

Does this mean that the damage won't be mitigated by armor?

[ufta]

1) blur change... How much does it affect us?
2) stat prio still crit?

1 - The demon speed nerf drops the max momentum uptime from ~65% to ~57%. That's a lot.
2 - FWIW, Kib just posted a SimC screenshot a few hours ago on the DH discord of a 2220311 build that's simming higher 4k DPS than live, and the stat weights showed mastery > crit >= haste = vers

[Littlepwny]

"Cinidaria, the Symbiote - Additional damage is no longer in the Physical school"

Does this mean that the damage won't be mitigated by armor?

Looking at my logs, Symbiotic Strike seems to be true damage, dealing exactly 30% of every hit instead of being further reduced by armour. This appears to be just a tooltip fix to this inconsistency.

I am personally super hyped about the significant mastery buff, gearing for crit/mastery is how it should always have been; crazy movement speed hype.

[High Marshal Sigismund]

Bloodlet or First Blood for 7.1.5 ST?

[Yhcti]

Been waiting for them to make mastery our top stat so hoping this is the case!

[Raiju]

I am personally super hyped about the significant mastery buff, gearing for crit/mastery is how it should always have been; crazy movement speed hype.

Enjoy farming M+ for that magical crit/mastery gear