Best 5 man tank in Legion for Mythic+ ?

[avoidconfusion]

Hi all,

So I watched a few videos on youtube by the usual suspects but I am still trying to make my mind up.

My main used to be Frost DK but for Legion I wanted to try tanking, so naturally I tried Blood DK first and quite liked it.
But I also like Druid and Prot Paladin. My worry with the Druid is that I might not enjoy looking at bearbutt most of the time.... my worry with the Prot Paladin is that I heard streamers comment that they think he is the worst 5 man tank? Haven't tried Warrior, Monk or Demon Hunter yet.

I was wondering what the thoughts in this forum are around this?

Thanks!

[Hashcrypt]

Asked myself this same question. Without using a boost on a toon, I have access to Blood, Prot Pally/War, and of course now Vengeance DH.

After many hours of research, scouring forums, and watching youtube reviews and gameplay vids for each tank spec, I settled on Blood as my tank spec.

High survivability with self-heals, some utility, and overall enjoyable playstyle led to my decision.

[Deja Thoris]

There is no "best". Each tank has strengths and weaknesses depending on what you face.

[Deleted]

I believe you can safely stick to your dk. We will be good in 5-man dungeons.

Generally I think they blanced the tanks quite well, so they are all viable, where it is mostly up to your own preference what you want to play.
But do try and give DH a shot. I heard they should be quite fun.

[Coldvibes]

Bears/Warriors can facetank the most damage, Prot Paladins are basically DPS tier damage with pretty awful mit, DH has extremely good utility, DKs do pretty insane damage with great utility, never played monk.

That's been my experience with tanks in M+.

[stevenho]

So I watched a few videos on youtube by the usual suspects

Meaning who?

my worry with the Prot Paladin is that I heard streamers comment that they think he is the worst 5 man tank

I know one streamer that says otherwise. His name is Slootbag, perhaps you've heard about him.

[threeks]

Warrior is damn amazing.

[Coldvibes]

Paladins have a really strong artifact that shines in Mythic+ (the absorb from avenger's shield is awesome in dungeons). We are certainly not tanks with awful mitigation.

I'd like to know what level + you're running Prot Paladins at, because I agree, Prot Paladins are great when my group's tank uses his for speed clearing/getting higher level keys from +4-5 to 7-8 but beyond 7 that absorb shield just gets instantly popped every time.

I'm not saying I think Prot Paladins are bad tanks, they have amazing party utility and INSANE damage. I just find that Prot can facetank a hell of a lot less than Bears/Warriors can at the moment.

[Saiyoran]

My experience (cleared most instances on +10 on beta at this point):
Tankiness: Prot Warr/Guardian>Brewmaster>Blood>Vengeance>Prot Pally
DPS: Blood >>>>>Prot Pally>Vengeance/Prot Warr>Brewmaster>Guardian
Other Stuff:
-Blood has Mass Grip, self-sustain against non-Tyrannical bosses and trash, and single grip as a second interrupt or mob placement tool.
-Vengeance has Silence Sigil, Disorient Sigil, and Chains, which all have significant uses against dungeon mobs. Mobility can be useful.
-Brewmaster can spec for statue or an AoE stun, has mobility, and can completely self-sustain against easier packs of mobs (anything that won't do 35% of your hp in a global basically). Paralysis is useful for some pulls.
-Prot Warrior can spec an AoE stun, has some mobility, inspiring presence is ok and safeguard can be useful against some mechanics.
-Guardian has stamp roar for invis runs or just to cut time and battle Rez. Haven't played much with one so can't elaborate much more.
-Pally has some off healing, and hands for cheesing things. Low cd silence with shield is also very useful.

For sub-+10, I'd say Blood/Vengeance are the best tanks hands down. I'd take a Prot Warrior no questions asked for 10+ though due to great mitigation, an AoE stun, and decent dps. Everything is pretty viable though.

[avoidconfusion]

Meaning who?



I know one streamer that says otherwise. His name is Slootbag, perhaps you've heard about him.

Preach, OneLegion, FinalBoss (although he stays away from rankings)

[Hashcrypt]

edit: wrong thread...

[stevenho]

Preach, OneLegion, FinalBoss (although he stays away from rankings)

Wouldn't you rahter listen to a main tank of the world #1 guild than a run of the mill streamer?

[Deleted]

Wouldn't you rahter listen to a main tank of the world #1 guild than a run of the mill streamer?

And what are these people saying? The likes of Slootbag and Sco etc, I noticed Sco is playing a lot of DK but Slootbag seems to be playing them all pretty evenly.

I'm having this dilemma myself, I plan on doing 5 mans almost exclusively and I can't get a solid answer on which is best, DH seem to have the most utility, Warriors seem to be the best defensively and DKs having the most damage and aoe grip, I'm happy to play any of these three but I just want to know which will generally speaking be the best choice, can anyone tell me this? Or is it truly impossible to answer as it depends on which dungeon you're doing?

[Deja Thoris]

And what are these people saying? The likes of Slootbag and Sco etc, I noticed Sco is playing a lot of DK but Slootbag seems to be playing them all pretty evenly.

I'm having this dilemma myself, I plan on doing 5 mans almost exclusively and I can't get a solid answer on which is best, DH seem to have the most utility, Warriors seem to be the best defensively and DKs having the most damage and aoe grip, I'm happy to play any of these three but I just want to know which will generally speaking be the best choice, can anyone tell me this? Or is it truly impossible to answer as it depends on which dungeon you're doing?

Saiyoran gave the best answer you'll get.

Lets make this clear - there is no best tank.

[globezorz]

Guardian seems really strong though, they have a huge hp pool plus frenzied regen allowing you to make mistakes and recover in situations other tanks would just die. You also have a near perfect AM tandem of abilities with an armor boost and magic shield, plus great defensive CDs on rather low CDs. I think for mythic plus especially they are in a great spot.

Warriors are strong cause ignore pain is incredibly strong and as always they bring a butt load of utility to a group through mobility and other means.

What I've seen/read about pallies is that there mitigation is fine, but much harder to use and time then the other tanks and much more punishing for misusing. Not that they're bad, just tougher at the highest levels.

Demon hunters are much like warriors with the mobility and utility but are immensely spiky and some people believe that their self healing doesn't quite match up to the amount of damage they take so far, but to be fair I haven't heard a ton feedback from high level players nor have I tested myself.

DKs are in great shape with damage and survivability, for my preference the lack of mobility and a strong DR cool down turns me off from them, as well as Gorefiends Grasp's new cooldown.

Have no idea about monk, never will lol.

[stevenho]

And what are these people saying? The likes of Slootbag and Sco etc, I noticed Sco is playing a lot of DK but Slootbag seems to be playing them all pretty evenly.

He is saying all tanks are viable, and their strengths and weaknesses depend on affixes in M+. Plus that he has the most fun pressing buttons on his DH.

[Octa]

Preach, OneLegion, FinalBoss (although he stays away from rankings)

Think I found your problem...

[Kazgarol]

I just found a video of a vengeance DH tanking mythic level 12. i'm not sure if i'm allowed to post links here.
You can search "Maw of Souls Level 12 M+ Vengeance DH PoV" on youtube. It's a pretty decent run.

And here's a quote from the DH player:
"DH tank is really good imo. DH has a lot of utility with AOE Grip/Fear/Silence, and there dmg/healing is another plus. However warrior/bear can sit there and take a bit more dmg, which could be more useful on higher levels, but so long as you can survive DH will be better b/c of the dmg/utility."

[avoidconfusion]

Are Warriors difficult to learn in comparison to DK, DH and Paladin? Never tried one...

[Saiyoran]

Are Warriors difficult to learn in comparison to DK, DH and Paladin? Never tried one...

No. None of the tanks are particularly hard at the moment. Blackout Combo Brewmaster is the most thought i've had to put into one so far and even that isn't anywhere as hard as MoP or pre-MoP tanking was. Warrior is pretty simple. There's obviously nuances to timing your mitigation and such but the basics are very very easy.