What if We introduced Bears to the Outback?

[waitwutt]

Right, OP did say grizzly bears. Grizzly vs Silverback would be a legit fight.

grizzly is more than twice the weight. in some cases the males can weight 1500-1700 pounds. silverbacks weight 300-500. and gorillas don't have giant knives on their hands

[Zorial]

I was always under the impression that if i I wanted to see bears, go to nearby rivers.

Hydration is very important for bears.

Which is why i included "either by a river fishing"

[Nathreim]

But why?

Death from overheating.

Grizzlies used to range in the south west deserts of the US.

[frogger237]

grizzly is more than twice the weight. in some cases the males can weight 1500-1700 pounds. silverbacks weight 300-500. and gorillas don't have giant knives on their hands

But we could train the gorilla to use katanas or axes.

[THE Bigzoman]

grizzly is more than twice the weight. in some cases the males can weight 1500-1700 pounds. silverbacks weight 300-500. and gorillas don't have giant knives on their hands

I was thinking the same thing.

A bear is either just as built or better built than a gorilla.

Add in a thick hid, skull, and big claws and I see nothing but an advantage.

That isn't to say a Gorilla has no chance in hell, but I think the bear wins in most cases.

[Rudkobing]

You are forgetting the Wabbit Problem.

[Zorial]

But why?


Grizzlies used to range in the south west deserts of the US.]

I did not actually know that... perhaps living standards caused a difference?, slightly smaller and less fat during the hotter seasons? i still think that Australia might be a bit too much, too hot and dry for too long.

[Independent voter]

California has a Grizzly on it's flag, but the last grizzly died out there long ago.

[Nathreim]

I did not actually know that... perhaps living standards caused a difference?, slightly smaller and less fat during the hotter seasons?

Black Bears here dont bulk up like bears you see in the north. Ive seen black bears in West Texas they look kinda like big dogs more than what we thing bears look like. They are leaner and don't hibernate cause they don't need too.

[Zorial]

Black Bears here dont bulk up like bears you see in the north. Ive seen black bears in West Texas they look kinda like big dogs more than what we thing bears look like. They are leaner and don't hibernate cause they don't need too.

Black Bears aren't Grizzlies though, and we were discussing the viability of Grizzlies in Australia.

[Karamaru]

Knowing Australia's deadly animals they would evolve into Yao Guai's or something

[Bathory]

I'd imagine they'd all die out pretty quickly. Not enough game for them, no true winters for hibernation so they'd have to be active year round, plus the overall heat.

[Ripster42]

Black bears not grizzlies.

Grizzlies don't really live "miles" above sea level either. While some might, 2 miles above sea level is near the tree line for all of n america. 11k feet above sea level and they're pretty much maxing out, and I'm not even sure they get that high (although I've definitely seen them at ~8k).

[Sky High]

Grizzlies don't really live "miles" above sea level either. While some might, 2 miles above sea level is near the tree line for all of n america. 11k feet above sea level and they're pretty much maxing out, and I'm not even sure they get that high (although I've definitely seen them at ~8k).

Regardless they live in higher and more temperate eviroments. I can't see them surviving in straight up desert.

[Ripster42]

Regardless they live in higher and more temperate eviroments. I can't see them surviving in straight up desert.

They used to live in "sky islands" in the midst of deserts. But ya, I don't see them thriving there either.

[derpkitteh]

This is true.

I think it's Black Bears.

Actually, your avatar got me thinking whether or not a Bear could hold its own with a gorilla.

strong as gorillas are, i don't think they could handle a bear. unless it was one of the smaller species of black bear.

any brown bear or polar bear would just rip the gorilla up.

[May90]

We should just genetically engineer dinosaurs and Make Earth Great Again!

But Grizzly will do well too. I guess they would become new ultimate predators in Australia. Until people decide to release something else there, to dethrone them in turn...

[derpkitteh]

We should just genetically engineer dinosaurs and Make Earth Great Again!

But Grizzly will do well too. I guess they would become new ultimate predators in Australia. Until people decide to release something else there, to dethrone them in turn...

grizzlies would do worse than any type of black bear, because grizzlies live in colder climates than black bears. their bodies are just not made to handle as much heat as australia has.

black bears, maybe. they do live in nevada, so it's conceivable that they could survive it. then you have sun bears from india, which might also do well.

black bears breed fast and can become a nuisance animal really quickly. it'd just be a bad idea to do this. besides, the only crocs they'd threaten are the ones that don't usually hurt people, freshies. salties are the ones that kill people, and to a 16ft saltie, a black bear is a nice sized meal.

[Shadowferal]

When my brother was in the CO Rockies, a ranger told him that if he ever gets charged by a black bear, the recommended method to deal with it is to charge back and muscle it to the ground. Black bears are relatively small and light weight when compared to grizzlies, and they'll tend to run when aggressively confronted by a stubborn human of similar weight.
Of course the recommended method of dealing with a grizzly is climbing a tree if you have the that much a spare moment. If not, play dead...it might work, or not.

[Ripster42]

When my brother was in the CO Rockies, a ranger told him that if he ever gets charged by a black bear, the recommended method to deal with it is to charge back and muscle it to the ground. Black bears are relatively small and light weight when compared to grizzlies, and they'll tend to run when aggressively confronted by a stubborn human of similar weight.
Of course the recommended method of dealing with a grizzly is climbing a tree if you have the that much a spare moment. If not, play dead...it might work, or not.

Ya, that ranger/you/your brother (choose an option) is full of shit. The preferred method isn't "wrestling it to the ground." You don't even need bear mace as it doesn't always shoot that far. Wasp spray works, and usually shoots further.