Sheriff offers inmates to build trump border wall

[Cebel]

Awesome back to slavery./s

except they'd be paid the same exact wages they normally would on work duty. Way to use your brain.

[Paranoid Android]

Love lefties, once again, defending law-breakers. They, after all, are victims!

"Oh that poor murderer! Don't make him work! "

Let's call it SLAVERY to get knee jerk reactions out of people to instantly associate the idea with a negative connotation, even though it would be purely made of volunteers.

If you are in prison, I really don't care what they make you do. Certainly deserve the punishment. Least building the wall might make them useful.

Love how conservatives want cheap prison labor to do a job that could pay U.S. citizens good construction wages.

[alzoron]

Regardless of whether this is slavery or volunteering it's interesting to note:

The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime.

It's perfectly legal to treat prisoners like slaves. I don't personally like it but it is what it is. There was a push to outlaw this in my state this last election but it failed 51-49%

[Zyster]

Love how conservatives want cheap prison labor to do a job that could pay U.S. citizens good construction wages.

For how long? How much of tax payer money? Love how liberals don't think logically while degrading good U.S. Citizens.

[Vargur]

Not slavery. When you're in prison for a felony you do whatever they tell you.

I don't think that's how it works, dude.

Because it doesn't work like that.
If they wanna work for something in return, usually reduced sentences, then they'll work.
They can't be forced to do anything else that they're not supposed to do while incarcerated, unless we're talking about dictatorial states, like NK.
A "sheriff" has no say in this.

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Love lefties, once again, defending law-breakers. They, after all, are victims!

"Oh that poor murderer! Don't make him work! "

Let's call it SLAVERY to get knee jerk reactions out of people to instantly associate the idea with a negative connotation, even though it would be purely made of volunteers.

If you are in prison, I really don't care what they make you do. Certainly deserve the punishment. Least building the wall might make them useful.

Generalising isn't how it works either.

[-aiko-]

If the wall actually happens, I'd prefer that we create actual jobs for the construction. Seems kind of stupid to me.

[SL1200]

Yeah let's let criminals with no experience in masonry build it. What could go wrong? If a wall is built it should be built by professional masons.

[Paranoid Android]

For how long? How much of tax payer money? Love how liberals don't think logically while degrading good U.S. Citizens.

With that reason then every military contract and government job we should use prison labor. You know save tax payer money.

Are you for real?

[Zyster]

With that reason then every military contract and government job we should use prison labor. You know save tax payer money.

Are you for real?

Didn't realize the thread was about the military.

[WskyDK]

I have to admit, I'm surprised. Before I clicked on that link I was sure I'd be reading another facepalm-worthy piece about Joe Arpaio.

On that note, I hadn't even realized that Maricopa County finally got tired enough of Sheriff Joe not to reelect him. At least something good happened in an election in 2016.

Hell yes we did.
Worst case scenario is Penzone is no better than arpaio.

[Blur4stuff]

It's a great idea. I practice this kind of thing myself. For example, a section of plumbing in my shop needed to be replaced last year. As luck would have it, one of my neighbor's kids had recently gotten in trouble for setting things on fire. I worked out a deal with the parents and he had to replace the pipes for me as punishment. Everything worked out perfectly.

[Paranoid Android]

Didn't realize the thread was about the military.

You are special.

[Aggrophobic]

It's a great idea. I practice this kind of thing myself. For example, a section of plumbing in my shop needed to be replaced last year. As luck would have it, one of my neighbor's kids had recently gotten in trouble for setting things on fire. I worked out a deal with the parents and he had to replace the pipes for me as punishment. Everything worked out perfectly.

Is your shop in the middle of no where with no roads to it? Did the kid need armed guards and a armored transport to get the the shop?
It doesn't really sound like the same deal to me.

[Deleted]

Seriously?! People are now again going against Trump cause a sheriff offered an INMATE, AKA someone who COMMITTED A CRIME... to work on the wall.... and you all you people see is: ooh boo, slavery..

Is that ALL you picked up from this?!

[Zyster]

You are special.

Doesn't take a special kind of person to point out how illogical someone is, but thank you!

[Youn]

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Pretty sure that means you can still put convicted criminals in prison work programs.

[0ptimo]

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Pretty sure that means you can still put convicted criminals in prison work programs.

The criminals!!! Won't anyone think of the criminals?!

[Machismo]

Ugh, I hope those democrats don't rise again.

Lucky for me, I have never been a Democrat.

[Tijuana]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-community-se/

"Do community service by volunteering.."
No, you don't have to do whatever they tell you.
The Sheriff wants his prisoners to volunteer.

And it's a bad plan, not just because the Wall is an idiotic idea that only someone like Trump could come up with.
The security will be expensive.
And when you have prisoners doing it for "free", you're basically taking away the jobs of the people that could be doing it.

Why are walls stupid, in your mind? There are walls all over the world, and they work fine. Where you live has walls, and it keeps all sorts of things out of your home.

[Zandalarian Paladin]

Infowar. Not much of a source.

But um, that's a ridiculously bad idea.