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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahovv View Post
    Encouraging laws which oppose free speech = becoming a Nazi.
    Do you even know what nazis are? Becease you're talking about most of the world, including all of europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Opposing a nazi makes you one? what?
    You share the same values of opposing free speech, so yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    did they? then what ever site that posted such a thing then needs be brought up on incitement the DoJ is doing a federal investigation and that is true what you said I'm sure they will be bringing up charges
    Now you finally realize the hypocrisy in the system. Or do you? They often get a free pass on stuff like that because "free speech" or "no one was killed yet"... or because they're white, take your pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Such things should be addressed on an individual basis. You want to treat them as the totality of past actions, when you should not. I am not responsible for the actions of my government. I am not responsible for the actions of some other guy. You are literally doing the same thing as them.
    There is no such thing as a 'nice nazi'.

    People are not entitled to baseless and stupid opinions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Do you even know what nazis are? Becease you're talking about most of the world, including all of europe.
    Restriction of free speech is a core component of authoritarianism. I'm glad you've noticed much of the world suffers from this issue. The best (worst) examples would be places like Saudi Arabia which get you executed for speaking against the king or being an atheist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Opposing a nazi makes you one? what?
    Remember the argument people used about the Charlottseville rally to label everyone there as a nazi?
    If it walks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck, etc...
    Well, guess what. If you oppress people like a nazi, then you're pretty much one yourself. Maybe he doesn't call himself a nazi, but he has similar methods and views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    We just going to skip over the The Treaty of Versailles, the one thing all historians point to as the reason for the Nazi rise and WW2?
    that and them breaking it and us burying our heads in the sand and did nothing about it till they got to big of a military power to end it with out millions being killed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahovv View Post
    Encouraging laws which oppose free speech = becoming a Nazi. And since I'm opposed to Nazis, I'll oppose those who want to restrict speech.
    hey guyz, you know those anti nazi laws Germany passed way back when? they totally don't work cuz their still nazis, apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellhamster View Post
    You share the same values of opposing free speech, so yes.
    I also breathe oxygen, I must be literately Hitler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky High View Post
    hey guyz, you know those anti nazi laws Germany passed way back when? they totally don't work cuz their still nazi's, apparently.
    Honestly that's just semantics. Rather boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    I also breathe oxygen, I must be literately Hitler.
    Ah, so rather than focus on the core issue (opposition to free speech) you're going to get caught up on the specific label and mock it.

    Classic MMO-Champion semantics.

    edit: Yeah I'm bored with this website again. You guys are a bunch of pussies, so afraid that you cannot argue your points effectively enough that somehow the white nationalists will win! Those darned Nazis are everywhere! Better make it illegal, since you lack confidence in your own debating ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BajPally View Post
    Remember the argument people used about the Charlottseville rally to label everyone there as a nazi?
    If it walks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck, etc...
    Well, guess what. If you oppress people like a nazi, then you're pretty much one yourself. Maybe he doesn't call himself a nazi, but he has similar methods and views.
    The one with the nazi flags?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahovv View Post
    Honestly that's just semantics. Rather boring.
    pffffftftftftfftttff, oh so it's just semantics when it easily sweeps your argument out from under you? convenient, super convenient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    There is no such thing as a 'nice nazi'.
    National socialism is an ideology that covers a lot of things, including economical, political and other questions.
    I understand that the brainwashing is really strong to equate every nazi with a psychopath that wants to kill every jew on the planet, but this is not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky High View Post
    hey guyz, you know those anti nazi laws Germany passed way back when? they totally don't work cuz their still nazis, apparently.
    Since iam german and i be called a few dozen times a nazi in my life i can support that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Now you finally realize the hypocrisy in the system. Or do you? They often get a free pass on stuff like that because "free speech"... or because they're white, take your pick.
    nothing to do with being white I can post vid after vid of minorities making deadly treats towards whites and very little if anything is done about it
    I will give you a good example
    https://streamable.com/qblpg
    you think he will spend anytime behind bars
    why does everything have to be about race with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    I also breathe oxygen, I must be literately Hitler.
    No, you would be literally Hitler by opposing free speech though, which you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahovv View Post



    Ah, so rather than focus on the core issue (opposition to free speech) you're going to get caught up on the specific label and mock it.

    Classic MMO-Champion semantics.
    You're saying opposing limitless free speech makes you a nazi, ignoring the rest of the ideology.
    Are you serious? But hey, have fun calling any country with a functioning government a 'bunch of nazis', im sure it makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    The one with the nazi flags?
    Most of the people didn't have a nazi flag.
    Actions are more important than some guy next to you waving a symbol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellhamster View Post
    No, you would be literally Hitler by opposing free speech though, which you do.
    So do most people.
    Its funny you guys mention this over the far worse shit Hitler did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BajPally View Post
    Most of the people didn't have a nazi flag.
    Actions are more important than some guy next to you waving a symbol.
    The nazi speakers, the nazi imaginary on the shields?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BajPally View Post
    National socialism is an ideology that covers a lot of things, including economical, political and other questions.
    I understand that the brainwashing is really strong to equate every nazi with a psychopath that wants to kill every jew on the planet, but this is not true.
    When they stop bitching about George Soros and Jewish bankers I might consider believing you.

    And quite frankly, vehement nationalists are equally as cancerous to polite society.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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