Frost spec for pvp?

[Crad]

Hi im new to DK Builds i would love some help on a frost build i just want to know whats the most popular pvp spec in frost, because as holy/blood (lvl 71) i just got owned by some frost DK and was wanting to try it out so if someone could help me out it would be great... THANKS ;D

[Izdog06]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...h=101312060504

[Crad]

Thanks for the link, could you be kind to tell me the rotation to it plz

[Oceaniax]

Thanks for the link, could you be kind to tell me the rotation to it plz

With all due respect, if you're trying to use static rotations in PvP that's probably one of the reasons the other DK owned you.

[Deleted]

It's amazing how some people can always just blame the spec.

[Rägnärok]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...h=101312060504

why would you not get deathchill, wtf kind of spec is that it doesnt even have icy reach and unbreakeable armor isnt any good till 3.1

[biggydeen]

why would you not get deathchill, wtf kind of spec is that it doesnt even have icy reach and unbreakeable armor isnt any good till 3.1

What exactly makes you think unbreakable armor is not good atm ?
Its one of the best talents you can get for just 1 talent point.

And if you do some math you'll see an atp increase of:

10% of ~1200 strenght = 120 str.(based on a good geared dk)
30% of 120str = 36 str. ( rune of fallen crusader )
So thats 156 str = 312 atp for 1 talent point with 1min cd.

And then i didnt even metion the 25% armor and 5% parry increase.

I agree on the fact that the spec hes currently using without deathchill ect sucks indeed.
But no way UBA is bad.

[aejt]

What exactly makes you think unbreakable armor is not good atm ?
Its one of the best talents you can get for just 1 talent point.

And if you do some math you'll see an atp increase of:

10% of ~1200 strenght = 120 str.(based on a good geared dk)
30% of 120str = 36 str. ( rune of fallen crusader )
So thats 156 str = 312 atp for 1 talent point with 1min cd.

And then i didnt even metion the 25% armor and 5% parry increase.

I agree on the fact that the spec hes currently using without deathchill ect sucks indeed.
But no way UBA is bad.

It isn't good either, the thing is just that the AP you get from it does less damage than you would get by using the frost rune in an attack such as obliterade or icy touch. It is good in some combos where you need heavy survival, but Frost Presence + IBF should really be enough most of the times.

[DrWhen]

IMO , this is the best PvP spec if you are going 2hnder, no point going for haste talents unless you are duel-weilding.

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...=101312060504#

[Burner]

IMO , this is the best PvP spec if you are going 2hnder, no point going for haste talents unless you are duel-weilding.

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...=101312060504#

A Frost Spec without DEATHCHILL???? GJ show's how much you know

[DrWhen]

A Frost Spec without DEATHCHILL???? GJ show's how much you know

Ah yeah, error done in haste, thought I had an extra talent point than usual :-) take one off toughness and put it into death chill.

[Burner]

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or

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...h=101312060504

is what you want

[DrWhen]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...h=101312060504

or

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...h=101312060504

is what you want

I am a bit puzzled as to why you would want to spend 5 points in increasing your haste by 20% from frost fever, unless you are duel weild to get the extra benifit from killing machine, why bother?

[Burner]

I am a bit puzzled as to why you would want to spend 5 points in increasing your haste by 20% from frost fever, unless you are duel weild to get the extra benifit from killing machine, why bother?

Exactly what I asked myself. All I did was copy your tree except move some points where they belong better. Those extra points can go anywhere because that haste isnt really needed but the spell resistance in the lower part of the tree doesnt work any better. Try them in blood?

[kriS411]

I am a bit puzzled as to why you would want to spend 5 points in increasing your haste by 20% from frost fever, unless you are duel weild to get the extra benifit from killing machine, why bother?

If you now explain how DW gets an exta benefit from KM, that would be nice.

Haven't played DK since 3.0.8 huh?

[DrWhen]

If you now explain how DW gets an exta benefit from KM, that would be nice.

Haven't played DK since 3.0.8 huh?

I must admit, I have only revised the changes so much, but I understand that KM chance to proc is increased if 2hnd, and decreased from DW?

Either way, if you are going to go KM and DW, then the 5 extra points for the 20% haste is a must. But I dont think 5 points is worth all that if you are 2hnd, maybe im wrong.

[DrWhen]

Exactly what I asked myself. All I did was copy your tree except move some points where they belong better. Those extra points can go anywhere because that haste isnt really needed but the spell resistance in the lower part of the tree doesnt work any better. Try them in blood?

Ahh ffs, I reset thw whole thing and even changed a glyph, but posted the OP's spec.......redoing. this isnt a good day for me :-(

Here it is....

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...h=181305050406

Sorry.

EDIT*** got it wrong again!!! Must stop trying to post stuff on MMO while at work :-(

[fallendues]

Ahh ffs, I reset thw whole thing and even changed a glyph, but posted the OP's spec.......redoing. this isnt a good day for me :-(

Here it is....

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...h=181305050406

Sorry.

EDIT*** got it wrong again!!! Must stop trying to post stuff on MMO while at work :-(

Nice spec, the only thing i would change is to drop RPM and get THWS 2/2 and UA 1/1.

That would give you a burst on command as well as 4% raw damage increase, a DK should never bee sitting at full RP anyways.

That with Glyph of FS would be insane burst, specially now that DC and KM don't consume one another now.

[DrWhen]

Nice spec, the only thing i would change is to drop RPM and get THWS 2/2 and UA 1/1.

That would give you a burst on command as well as 4% raw damage increase, a DK should never bee sitting at full RP anyways.

That with Glyph of FS would be insane burst, specially now that DC and KM don't consume one another now.

Does THWS add 4% to all damage or just white damage?

What glyph would you drop for Glyph of FS?

[Redneckxxl]

Hey,

First of all: excuse me for my pore englisch:

I've seen some topics about pvping with a DK since WotLK, and I need to tell this:

PVP with unholy/blood!

There is not a better was to do it: If u got attacked, (and u have a pvp trinket) You can heal yourself up to 20K!

So ecxept from boneshield, improved anti-magic shell and all other self protection (wich make u sometimes realy unstoppable): U are ur own healer!
With Rune Tap, Death Pact and (dont underestimate this one) (Dranei) Gift of Naru u are not beeing stopped.

I'm pvp addicted, lots of people say that, so i got some experience, but still, using ur talents and skills correctly, u are a good pvp'r

In short: First: Get some diseases on the enemy target: Icy Touch and plaque strike, spred'm out with pestilence and u'll get double crits.
Second: If u have a target with lots of casting (shaman, mages, and locks) silence m with strangulate and mind freeze, realy helps.
Third, Make urself unstoppable; AMS, IBF etc, with self healing.

If u got melee attackers coming up: First of all, good thing, u wanna keep m close. Second, chains of ice will make then move far more quickly (for those who run around like hell) and ur boneshield will take 20% of their dmg, desereted grounds (or something like that) will make m move less, attack speed slowed and not beeing able to move.

Then as last: (count for all sort of pvping) MAKE MACRO'S!! They real help u during the fight!

I'v killed 6 horde in 1 fight this way: Movie will be out soon:

It makes u unstoppable!!