AV sucks

[ralphie]

Just got done with and AV that lasted about 6-7 minutes. No towers capped, no graveyards capped. Alliance just rushed to kill Galv and then on to Drek. It doesn't help that all the Horde defenses can be bypassed, but I digress.

It'd be nice if they did something to fix this zerg strategy.

[huangzhong9]

The horde can't do the same thing if they have a tank that can take the hits?

[Jeddite]

The horde can't do the same thing if they have a tank that can take the hits?

The bridge rushes into Vann's room and wipes the raid.

[huangzhong9]

The bridge rushes into Vann's room and wipes the raid.

What?

[Elementium]

After playing Av on both sides Yes the Alliance have advantages.

When I play on Horde.. I'm the only one smart enough to actually run to the Aid Station. Out of 40 people.. all I would need is like 2 more to mitigate the damage from all the NPC's in order to capture the GY.. by the time that would happen the alliance would be too far down to make the effort to take it back and it could be an easy win.

3 people out of 40 is all you need yet, it doesn't happen.

[Jeddite]

What?

Exactly.

[Gonard]

The horde can't do the same thing if they have a tank that can take the hits?

Cant say that always works. Most of the time The Archers take out the players as they cross the bridge in there. Many good players die at bridge. And if 20% of the alliance are guarding SP or bridge Horde wont make it across.

But you can do it in it depends on the battleground. There was a video on how to do it in 5 minutes or something like that on Horde.

[Necrodeath]

On my battlegroup, due to SP being the strongest choke-point in the game, we always have Alliance turtling there and making the game take 4 times longer than it needs to. I really miss vanilla AV.

[Peacenik]

After playing Av on both sides Yes the Alliance have advantages.

When I play on Horde.. I'm the only one smart enough to actually run to the Aid Station. Out of 40 people.. all I would need is like 2 more to mitigate the damage from all the NPC's in order to capture the GY.. by the time that would happen the alliance would be too far down to make the effort to take it back and it could be an easy win.

3 people out of 40 is all you need yet, it doesn't happen.

Your first mistake was thinking other players would help you.

[Cooder]

I had an idea to fix the AV rush...posted it on the World of Warcraft General forums (read the whole thread up to post 25):
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...77768408&sid=1

[Shawaam]

The bridge rushes into Vann's room and wipes the raid.

OH SHIT, the bridge is comming to get us!

[BlazerWithTheLazer]

If anything the Horde have the advantage having a choke-point at IB that is almost impossible to get through if 15-20 horde deffend and most time 10 is enough.
The Alliance chok-point on the other hand is at the bridge which leaves 2 towers to the horde.

If you think the Alliance have the advantage in AV you're either playing with very "not so intelligent" Horde or the Alliance are Germans.

[Pieuvre]

My battlegroup, the horde do a better job rushing than the alliance.

So yeah.

[Ninetales]

NO U SUCK

[snowcrash512]

NPCs need to be buffed in the 80 version, galv takes maybe 10-15 seconds to down, guards are completely pointless... generals are too easy to down, those awesome shaman/druids for the boss summon that could break a turtle back in the day just by riding through and rapeing the other team are focused down in about 10 seconds.

[Veyne]

NO U SUCK

The intelligence and value to the conversation of this post is unbelievable.

In my experience, (I have gotten an alliance toon up there), the bridge choke-point is much harder to break than anything the horde has. Also - what choke point? You realize that the horde base is accessible by following like three different paths all the way from the mid-point, right?

[Mithsploit]

Good thing this isn't intended to be able to be done, otherwise there might be an achievement for it or something.

[Moshy]

You cant do The Alterac Blitz without rushing

[Vober]

NPCs need to be buffed in the 80 version, galv takes maybe 10-15 seconds to down, guards are completely pointless... generals are too easy to down, those awesome shaman/druids for the boss summon that could break a turtle back in the day just by riding through and rapeing the other team are focused down in about 10 seconds.

Agreed.

[Arcilux]

Horde can't zerg? Out of the last 10 or so AV's I've done we won via zerg 7 of them, the other 3 alliance zerged faster. Didn't stop anywhere along the way. Can't say I like this strategy, gets boring imo, but it was some easy marks and I got my achieve. Can't really remember the last time I was in a non-zerg AV