Army of the Dead / Night of the Dead in 3.3

[Fadeddeath]

So in 3.3 the following is listed.

Army of the Dead: The cooldown on this ability has been reduced from 20 minutes to 10 minutes. Army Ghoul damage dropped by 50%. Cannot be used in Arenas.

So with this happening how are they going to change Night of the Dead.

Night of the Dead Rank 1
Reduces the cooldown on Raise Dead by 45 sec. and the cooldown on Army of the Dead by 5 min. Also reduces the damage your pet takes from area of effect attacks by 40%.

Night of the Dead Rank 2
Reduces the cool down on Raise Dead by 90 sec. and the cool down on Army of the Dead by 10 min. Also reduces the damage your pet takes from area of effect attacks by 70%.

Are they going to drop the reduction completely making all specs have a 10 min Army of the dead?

Will they change it to 2.5/5 min to make it a 5 min cool down for unholy?

Are they going to not drop the cool down but increase the duration on Army of the Dead for unholy by 30 sec / 1 min?

Will they Increase HP and Damage of your Army of the Dead by 50% / 100% per point?

Personally I would love a duration increase by 30 seconds - 1 minute for 1 and 2 points respectively.

What do you think will happen with Night of the Dead?

[diseous]

I think that any DK that uses army of the dead in any other place than a BG should be removed in patch 3.3

[Mith]

This has already been answered by Ghostcrawler. No reason to speculate.

[Fadeddeath]

This has already been answered by Ghostcrawler. No reason to speculate.

Can you post a link?

[Mith]

Can you post a link?

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/2086...-the-dead.html

Night of the Dead reduces the cooldown to 6 min with this change.

[Fadeddeath]

Thanks. Well since we have an answer, what would you prefer then?

I will slightly change wording of the poll.

[Gigajot]

Read Blue posts first next time

[reac]

I think that any DK that uses army of the dead in any other place than a BG should be removed in patch 3.3

lolwut?

So because on my death knight i use army of the dead to help with a boss fight in a raid i should be removed?

[Cirayne24]

I think that any DK that uses army of the dead in any other place than a BG should be removed in patch 3.3

Tank CD, don't remove me bro.

[Mith]

Thanks. Well since we have an answer, what would you prefer then?

I will slightly change wording of the poll.

Personally I'd prefer the extended duration since 6 or 10mins is mostly still once pr. boss fight anyway.
edit: not sure if 30sec/1min would be the proper duration increament though. Balance and all

[Buzz Killington]

[Pieterman]

think it will turn army of the dead into a permanent pet tbh

[Samin]

think it will turn army of the dead into a permanent pet tbh

I would finally level my DK up just for that.

[Wingwraith]

I think that any DK that uses army of the dead in any other place than a BG should be removed in patch 3.3

wow, you fail. lol

[Highbred]

I think that any DK that uses army of the dead in any other place than a BG should be removed in patch 3.3

I'd stick to your own class forum!

AotD is a great booster in raids if you are DPS if used ~8 seconds before the boss is pulled you get a nice 1-1.5K dps boost for 40 seconds. Level ?? raid bosses aren't tauntable by AotD so you have nothing to worry about except boss adds, and careful as you can upset your OT's and get people killed if used unwisely. Lots of sites have posts of AotD lists of which bosses are worthwhile using on and when.

[billymont]

one question about AotD, will they eat AoE heals? i know bloodworms used to but was fixed i believe but never heard about AotD.

[Unholyground]

There is no damage loss, you have it up almost 4 times more than you normally would (as Unholy), For every other spec its a 50% DPS loss but you get to use it twice as much as before so the damage loss = Null. The only people QQ'ing are the people who depend on their army to be on top of the meters.

[diseous]

Hey retard stop posting. Army of the Dead is an amazing abilty currently in raids. It DOES NOT taunt bosses. And it provides a huge dps boost.

Love the name, here is some light in your eye.

I used to think like you.

I'd stick to your own class forum!

...nerdrage...

Added my DK in my sig just for you. This is my class forum.

The only people QQ'ing are the people who depend on their army to be on top of the meters.

^^ This ^^

[Cirayne24]

The only people QQ'ing are the people who depend on their army to be on top of the meters.

Mmhmm!

You don't have to have AotD to beat any encounter in the game. Not one encounter is based of having 1 or 2 DK's so they can cast army to allow you to win. It's not an instant win button, infact its far from it. The hardest encounters in the game, Yogg+0 and Anub, you can't even use Armies until the very end. And even then you don't use it to boost your DPS, you use it for the taunt so people can burn the boss.

You don't need Army to be top DPS, nor does it help you so significantly that you would drop so far off the DPS meter. I've never heard of a raid saying, "Man, if we only had AotD three or four more times we wouldn't have wiped. I know that we messed up on that ability, but more Armies man... we would have beat him easy!"

I think people should be less upset with a spell like AotD being nerfed, damage wise, and concentrate on other core abilities that need to be changed. And to be perfectly honest, I like the changes coming out this patch so far. Look they are fixing Scourge Strike.

It's no wonder Blizzard doesn't listen to anyone when people complain, because we complain about EVERYTHING, even when it doesn't matter in the long run.

[Arondight]

I think that any DK that uses army of the dead in any other place than a BG should be removed in patch 3.3

but aotd is useful in some situations on boss encounters

i.e. XT hard mode, Faction Champs, OS 10 +3D zerg.

These all benefit from the use of aotd, why so agreesive =[