are resto shams gimped?

[shogunmarcus]

It seems like i don't stack up at all when compared to other healers. I can't dispel magic so there goes sheep spam. I don't get bubbles (ES doesn't count in the least since there is a cooldown on it where a priest or pally bubble can keep you from getting blown up in a global). druids can hot faster than i can purge and are near invincible. No stuns or fears, a 45sec cool down CC. Don't bother bringing up hero, people do just fine and dandy without it so it isn't that key to victory in arena. what do you think? it looks like to me we are at the bottom of the "totem" pole.

[Elothie]

To tell you the truth it's sad to see resto shammans vs TSG but that goes for a lot of healers.Also you have some pretty good comp list you can go with and a heroism (any other healers has that? I don't see you reffering to it although it's a very good/unique ability).

[bulvorg]

We have Chain Heal which is a really powerful spell if you know how to use it. We have totems which DO increase our performance. When you say Earth Shield is not a ''shield'' I guess you mean it would decrease the damage people take. But also what's the fun of having classes if they anyway all have the same sorts of skills?

I have no problems healing as a shaman and if you have then you should probably go look up your specc and such.

EDIT: As when I read your post 2nd time I saw it seems like you're mainly pointing in arena direction. Well, we have grounding totem. Earth binding totem, and you can glyph a totem to shield you. We have ghost wolf which becomes excellent way to escape tricky enemies with if you specc away the casting time from it. Lesser healing wave and riptide makes up a healing nice for me atleast.

[RevvRevv]

Shamans are without doubt the worse healer in 2v2

A crappy 45sec cd cc with insanely short range and it breaks when you breath heavily on it
When your getting focused you need earth shield which means bye bye mana
No "barkskin" ability to reduce dmg taken
You do get "bubbles" glyph of stoneclaw totem gives you a ~5k shield every 30 seconds for little mana

[RevvRevv]

We have Chain Heal which is a really powerful spell if you know how to use it. We have totems which DO increase our performance. When you say Earth Shield is not a ''shield'' I guess you mean it would decrease the damage people take. But also what's the fun of having classes if they anyway all have the same sorts of skills?

I have no problems healing as a shaman and if you have then you should probably go look up your specc and such.

EDIT: As when I read your post 2nd time I saw it seems like you're mainly pointing in arena direction. Well, we have grounding totem. Earth binding totem, and you can glyph a totem to shield you. We have ghost wolf which becomes excellent way to escape tricky enemies with if you specc away the casting time from it. Lesser healing wave and riptide makes up a healing nice for me atleast.

Except you should be using healing wave, not lesser in most cases

[Skultharion]

Except you should be using healing wave, not lesser in most cases

You have an extra chromosone or sumfin?

[pomop]

Except you should be using healing wave, not lesser in most cases

I never use healing wave. Ever, aside from Natures swiftness. I just dont see the point. I can get off like 18 healing waves and go oom, or get off 40 or so lesser healing waves.

[onaqui]

It seems like i don't stack up at all when compared to other healers. I can't dispel magic so there goes sheep spam. I don't get bubbles (ES doesn't count in the least since there is a cooldown on it where a priest or pally bubble can keep you from getting blown up in a global). druids can hot faster than i can purge and are near invincible. No stuns or fears, a 45sec cool down CC. Don't bother bringing up hero, people do just fine and dandy without it so it isn't that key to victory in arena. what do you think? it looks like to me we are at the bottom of the "totem" pole.

How can druids hot faster than you purge? Every global he put's up one hot, while you remove 2.

[Icpie]

It seems like i don't stack up at all when compared to other healers. I can't dispel magic so there goes sheep spam. I don't get bubbles (ES doesn't count in the least since there is a cooldown on it where a priest or pally bubble can keep you from getting blown up in a global). druids can hot faster than i can purge and are near invincible. No stuns or fears, a 45sec cool down CC. Don't bother bringing up hero, people do just fine and dandy without it so it isn't that key to victory in arena. what do you think? it looks like to me we are at the bottom of the "totem" pole.

You're the only healer that has an interrupt on a short CD. Ghost Wolf is much better mobility than other healers (with the exception of druid travel form depending). Totems that eat up spells for you, slow people, buff you and your party, one that shields your totems (and yourself if you have the glyph), removes fears, sleeps and charms, removes poisons/diseases for you, and resistance totems.

Also, whoever doesn't use Healing Wave, try pairing it with Tidal Force. Works better than lesser after Riptide in terms of mana conservation.

[gemuadrken]

How can druids hot faster than you purge? Every global he put's up one hot, while you remove 2.

UP to 2. it seems very often that it removes only 1, if any at all.

[nietmakkir]

I love chasing trees around purging their hots off just watching their drop like a stone there's another topic about pretty much the same thing which me & some other peeps have posted some [amatuer arena] advice here

EDIT: did something screwy with the link somehow, fixed :S

[Rodolfo Bumtree]

I would agree with ICpie on the whole totem aspect. Yea its a pain in the ass if someone kills them super effectively and especially if its a pet that wont hurt their DPS too much but its hard to kill a shaman that can see whats coming his way and react. My only complaint would be that a lot of our defensive tools are mostly mapped to the earth totem. It'd be nice to have tremor, earthbind and stoneclaw all down at once with grounding or cleansing....

[Rodolfo Bumtree]

[quote UP to 2. it seems very often that it removes only 1, if any at all.
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That is mostly due to Resto druids having talents for their HoTs to resist dispels more than a failure on the part of your purge.

[RevvRevv]

I never use healing wave. Ever, aside from Natures swiftness. I just dont see the point. I can get off like 18 healing waves and go oom, or get off 40 or so lesser healing waves.

Well the top 2(all i could be bothered finding) resto shammys in 2v2 play with 3/3 healing way and 3/3 ancerstral awakening
(http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...z&gn=represeNt&http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...=Ohana&gn=Rage)

You get more mana regen from Imp water shield using healing wave, it heals alot more and with tidal force up its alot of healing for little to no mana as you get alot back

Alot of shamans use healing wave inbetween kicks etc

[gemuadrken]

resto shams arent gimped. how could they be if the #1 3v3 team uses one.

[Darkspore]

Against melee dpsers such as rogues and warriors they are pretty gimped yes.

[Styria]

I don't get bubbles

inb4 [Glyph of Stoneclaw Totem]

[Tikiya]

To tell you the truth it's sad to see resto shammans vs TSG

L2P issue there, I play resto shammy in 3s with rogue and warlock, and it's like faceroll win. Seriously. >>

"I can't dispel magic so there goes sheep spam."

L2Groundingtotem b4 the sheep lands? Or wind shear maybe? :P

"Don't bother bringing up hero"

WHAAAAAAT?! You must be joking me..

"No "barkskin" ability to reduce dmg taken"

L2 Stoneclaw totem and glyph it...

Against melee dpsers such as rogues and warriors they are pretty gimped yes.

No. No nononono... Earth shield on yourself, stoneclaw, nature resist and cleanse. You should be fine there. Don't use HW, Kick will do the trick for the rogue there. Cast some random flame shock + Lava bursts to down him. If he gets to nasty, frost shock, ghost wolf, RUN! If he pops sprint, Earth bind him. In one on ones a resto shaman should win against rogues.

Against warriors.. Well use mana totem, stoneskin/stoneclaw, earth shock. If he skillstorms, earth shield, Ghost wolf, run. You should be able to dps a warrior down one on one's too.

[Odyseas]

No. No nononono... Earth shield on yourself, stoneclaw, nature resist and cleanse. You should be fine there. Don't use HW, Kick will do the trick for the rogue there. Cast some random flame shock + Lava bursts to down him. If he gets to nasty, frost shock, ghost wolf, RUN! If he pops sprint, Earth bind him. In one on ones a resto shaman should win against rogues.

Against warriors.. Well use mana totem, stoneskin/stoneclaw, earth shock. If he skillstorms, earth shield, Ghost wolf, run. You should be able to dps a warrior down one on one's too.

Lots of fail

[Rixxe]

Cant help but laugh.

Shamans are the only healer that doesnt go Oom while still doing amazing healing while being the most annoying.

Purge can remove 2 buffs each time...
Wind shear stops nearly all spell casters even getting close to killing you
Totems... er they alone totally own against some classes

In a 2v2 situation they are not great, but in 3v3 they are super.
If your team mates are half decent you cant really die, you can support with damage and purges.

Maybe earthshield + run + totem + lol?