Arcane, the "Easiest" spec to play in the game.

[Arcanefodder]

Today I was doing my daily and carrying 2 dps under the tank through POS, over 60% of the damage done beign by me (not a boast at all, just said to provide info on how bad the other 2 dps were doing), so I told the people i was taking a break until the other dps caught up to me because i didnt feel like carrying idiots through a herioc.

I was then told that I should continue to dps because Arcane is the easiest spec to play in the game and I was wasting their time by not dpsing. I was like ......ok?

So my question is, if the Arcane spec is so ungodly easy, why does almost every mage you meet suck at it, yet they still insist that it is so easy.


Also, in retrospect, Compare arcane to other rotations:

Elemental Shaman:

LB
FS (Only used this as they are both hardly ever used after 4pc t10)
LvB

People still suck at playing elemental, what gives?

Mutilate rogues:

Slice and dice, hunger
Mut
Envenom

People still suck at rogues.

Fury Warrior

Use HS as filler.

BT
WW
Slam

People still suck at warriors.
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My point:

There are only a very few "HARD" rotations out there, most rotations consist of 2-3 buttons with the occassional odd button in there.

My question:

How come Arcane has taken the rap for it so bad, yet is consistently one of the specs where you see players that couldn't dps thier way out of a paper bag using arcane?

My Theory:

Arcane is all Direct Damage with absolutely no DOT type effect, making DPS for arcane LOOK unusually high and people ignore the fact that some classes will beat Arcane mages on Damage Done with lower overall dps and thus channel their rage by calling Mages out on how easy their rotation is.

[George Costanza]

what about ret paladin
Keep all abilities on cd :P

[Amnamos]

People call arcane out because it's the easiest to pick up. ABx4 AMx1 is really easy, using cooldowns well and adjusting that rotation to maximize your dps is not so easy. Easy to pick up, difficult to master - as are most classes. Ours just happens to be the easiest to pick up so people like to pick on it.

[Arcanefodder]

People call arcane out because it's the easiest to pick up. ABx4 AMx1 is really easy, using cooldowns well and adjusting that rotation to maximize your dps is not so easy. Easy to pick up, difficult to master - as are most classes. Ours just happens to be the easiest to pick up so people like to pick on it.

I think it alsso has alot to do with people thinking our spec is so OP because of the way our main nuke scales.

Bad gear- good damage- Why? ABx4 is a big ass damage modifier.

[Alenko]

what about ret paladin
Keep all abilities on cd :P

wrong, 1/4 of the time my consecration and exor cds are off cd but I can't use them because of higher prio abilities being up

and yes arcane is easiest rotation, arcane blast arcane blast arcane blast arcane blast arcane missiles is hard amirite? (not saying ret pally is hard but its harder that 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 2 3 )

[Netherinfern0]

No. it 'sounds' easy because of the rotation.
Managing your CD's well makes it one of the hardest to play exceptionally well.

[Arcanefodder]

wrong, 1/4 of the time my consecration and exor cds are off cd but I can't use them because of higher prio abilities being up

and yes arcane is easiest rotation, arcane blast arcane blast arcane blast arcane blast arcane missiles is hard amirite? (not saying ret pally is hard but its harder that 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 2 3 )

Prime example of what im talking about, You sir have no idea of what you speak.

I gave other examples from OTHER CLASSES that use the exact same concept.



What if you are low on mana, what if your MBAM doesnt proc after 15 AB's?

[Draeld]

People call arcane out because it's the easiest to pick up. ABx4 AMx1 is really easy, using cooldowns well and adjusting that rotation to maximize your dps is not so easy. Easy to pick up, difficult to master - as are most classes. Ours just happens to be the easiest to pick up so people like to pick on it.

Might wanna add knowing Your own mana pool, when to spam evo\ mana gem with losing the least time, to dps

[GUESSWHOIAM]

No. it 'sounds' easy because of the rotation.
Managing your CD's well makes it one of the hardest to play exceptionally well.

haha, nice bullshit, i guess you have an arcane mage.

I have an arcane mage, and damn is too fucking easy compared to my warlock (affliction). I just wait for my proc n stuff... Ok, u have to pop your CDs at the right time, but please, tell me a fight where the phases are changing and when you need to pop your CDs differently each time you wipe? It's a damn shit spec, my mage is hitting around 7k dps in 25 man raid with furious pvp gear. I can say that from all the characters I have (see my sign), arcane has the easiest rotation (followed by retardins)

[Dalien]

what if your MBAM doesnt proc after 15 AB's?

Every time this happens on my Mage I feel like /wrist'ing.

[Ninjarobot44]

what about ret paladin
Keep all abilities on cd :P

Ret dps is incredibly easy. However rets are there for more than just dealing damage. Any good ret will be paying close attention to cleanse, hop, freedom and salv people when needed while maintaining their dps priority. PROPERLY playing a ret in a raid is slightly more difficult than most people realize. I wouldn't call it hard in any case but playing it well would rank it right in the middle of dps class difficulty.

[Lotharion]

What most of you fail to realize is that EVERY ROTATION IS EASY IN BAD HANDS.

It's playing a class WELL that makes it difficult, and which most people cannot do.

[DeadNite]

...my mage is hitting around 7k dps in 25 man raid with furious pvp gear. ... (followed by retardins)

I find that highly unlikely in PvP gear. You might be able to burst that much on a heroic dungeon boss, but not sustained on any fight that doesn't have a gimmick that favors Mages. If you are hitting these numbers, I would love to see a combat log parse.

Either way, I don't see how arguing about your justification for being slaughtered by arcane Mages on the meters benefits the community. Yet another thread, about yet another useless topic.

GG Community, how about we try a little harder to push new people away.

[Karnadas]

I think a lot of the hate comes down to seeing 60% of your damage being arcane blast, 39% being Arcane Missiles and 1% being Arcane Barrage or whatever it is.

[Arcanefodder]

I find that highly unlikely in PvP gear. You might be able to burst that much on a heroic dungeon boss, but not sustained on any fight that doesn't have a gimmick that favors Mages. If you are hitting these numbers, I would love to see a combat log parse.

Either way, I don't see how arguing about your justification for being slaughtered by arcane Mages on the meters benefits the community. Yet another thread, about yet another useless topic.

GG Community, how about we try a little harder to push new people away.

Firstly. I AM an Arcane Mage, Im not complaining about them, but rather dsicussing why we catch so much flak compared to other classes. We are a pure DPS class that pulls high numbers due to the nature of our class and happen to have an "easy" rotation. Rouges are the exact same way, but if you ask ANYONE BUT a Rouge, they will say their rotation is hard, I know from personal experience that someone who raids on a rouge as a main will openly admit to how easy MUT's rotation is, but people still suck at it.

I dont exactly see how you got that anyone was arguing about how anyone was getting slaughtered on the meters by arcane mages.

This Topic was about how hard playing Arcane ACTUALLY IS compared to how hard people may think it is due to stereotyping compared to other classes.

It's not a pointless topic, it's discussion that obviously has some value to the community or it wouldn't have 10 posts in the first 10 minutes.

[Evee]

The reason it's considered the easiest is b/c you have a 2 spell rotation in most heroics. AB AB AB, AM if proc. Thats it. In comparison to other classes/specs...we do have it fairly easy. And your a dick for wanting to "wait" and let others catch up. I'd have booted you from the group just for making the run take longer than it should have. grow up kiddo

[windwalk]

i would have votekicked you. there are newbies in this game and this game is for kids 12 years and above aswell -realize that. no you dont have skill bc you are able to do proper dps. its easy as shit but everyone needs some xp first. everyone with iq>50 can learn wow pve and play it on the top and for the ones who dont agree pls tell me what exactly is so hard for you when you are spamming dps.

[Spectrez]

duhh..... How hard is it to press 3 buttons?? literally...

[Rugz]

ITT: People that don't understand haste rating for mages.

[Team Frosty]

i disagree. blood dk is. you can do 4k dps in 3 buttons