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    The old horde and the new horde.

    Hello i've heard a lot of people talking about the old horde and the new horde, i was just wondering how are they different? And what are they?

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    The Old Horde: Corrupted orcs invading Azeroth in the First and Seconds Wars.
    The New Horde: The Now Horde.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krio Gnosz View Post
    The Old Horde: Corrupted orcs invading Azeroth in the First and Seconds Wars.
    The New Horde: The Now Horde.
    Oh i see, thanks for clearing that up..i actually thought the old horde was the one without bloodelves lol Oh well!

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    Basically the old Horde is what the horde was in Warcraft and Warcraft II. The orcs were under control of the burning legion and invaded Azeroth.

    The new Horde however is the result of in part the orcs being freed from the blood frenzy and control of the legion (Thanks Thrall and Grom!). And the new collective of Races that are working to try and just carve out a place of their own in the world and protect themselves from aggresion. (Yes, there are some warmongers in the horde that wish to return to the old ways, but most just care about living their lives in the most noble and honorable way possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghrog74 View Post
    Basically the old Horde is what the horde was in Warcraft and Warcraft II. The orcs were under control of the burning legion and invaded Azeroth.

    The new Horde however is the result of in part the orcs being freed from the blood frenzy and control of the legion (Thanks Thrall and Grom!). And the new collective of Races that are working to try and just carve out a place of their own in the world and protect themselves from aggresion. (Yes, there are some warmongers in the horde that wish to return to the old ways, but most just care about living their lives in the most noble and honorable way possible.
    Thanks,your answer is complete and correct :-)

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    And now there's "The New Old Horde". In my opinion the New Hordes days are over, the New Hordes purpose was to unite a group of races suffering similarly to the orcs. They had small populations and so they ban together in an attempt to defend themselves so they can live in peace.

    Now there's Garrosh's Horde.

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    Thanks,your answer is complete and correct :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elementium View Post
    And now there's "The New Old Horde". In my opinion the New Hordes days are over, the New Hordes purpose was to unite a group of races suffering similarly to the orcs. They had small populations and so they ban together in an attempt to defend themselves so they can live in peace.

    Now there's Garrosh's Horde.
    Garrosh will be overthrown....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dfgs View Post
    Garrosh will be overthrown....
    Hopes up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dfgs View Post
    Garrosh will be overthrown....
    I hope so.. the story has strayed too far into turning the Horde back into mindless monsters.. Remember the times when they weren't?

    The Orcs were trying to rebuild their lives and find a home in the barrens.
    The Tauren were also trying to rebuild after a long war with the Centaurs.
    The Trolls.. also trying to find safety after being driven from their homes.
    Even the Undead at one point had good motives.. they wanted to see the Lich king destroyed and the scourge defeated and then find a cure for their Undeath.

    Somewhere Blizz decided they liked stupid orcs and evil undead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elementium View Post
    I hope so.. the story has strayed too far into turning the Horde back into mindless monsters.. Remember the times when they weren't?

    The Orcs were trying to rebuild their lives and find a home in the barrens.
    The Tauren were also trying to rebuild after a long war with the Centaurs.
    The Trolls.. also trying to find safety after being driven from their homes.
    Even the Undead at one point had good motives.. they wanted to see the Lich king destroyed and the scourge defeated and then find a cure for their Undeath.

    Somewhere Blizz decided they liked stupid orcs and evil undead.
    I guess it makes more money and makes good expansions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dfgs View Post
    Garrosh will not be overthrown....
    Fixed that for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elementium View Post
    I hope so.. the story has strayed too far into turning the Horde back into mindless monsters.. Remember the times when they weren't?

    The Orcs were trying to rebuild their lives and find a home in the barrens.
    The Tauren were also trying to rebuild after a long war with the Centaurs.
    The Trolls.. also trying to find safety after being driven from their homes.
    Even the Undead at one point had good motives.. they wanted to see the Lich king destroyed and the scourge defeated and then find a cure for their Undeath.

    Somewhere Blizz decided they liked stupid orcs and evil undead.
    I agree.

    the " New Horde " was what Thrall built his dream and his vision. He realizes that that dream will never come to fruition * enter Garrosh*

    New Old Horde is back in the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenomina View Post
    I agree.

    the " New Horde " was what Thrall built his dream and his vision. He realizes that that dream will never come to fruition * enter Garrosh*

    New Old Horde is back in the house.
    Orcs don't have houses, they have pig farms with big spikes on them .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garush View Post
    Orcs don't have houses, they have pig farms with big spikes on them .
    I stand corrected!

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    To be fair Garrosh can't turn the horde back to the old ways simply because he is mag'har, he is probably doing what he grew up knowing in Nagrand so it would be the Old old horde (pre-corruption). Also Thrall's new horde was never about peace, it was about survival and being free from demonic control, if anyone would bring demonic corruption back to the horde it most certainly would NOT be Garrosh after years of being 'emo' at his old daddy drinking mannoroth's blood.

    If Garrosh was all "RAWR KILL ALLIANCE!!!!!" then he would condone the use of the plague and val'kyr to boost his own forces, your arguments contradict. Face it, Garrosh is like Doomhammer and Grom. Blood elves are the ones who are evil with all their demon magic and selfish lifestyle.

    By the way, I'm a dwarf 'fanboy' if anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsybob View Post
    Blood elves are the ones who are evil with all their demon magic and selfish lifestyle.
    Where the hell did that come from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garush View Post
    Orcs don't have houses, they have pig farms with big spikes on them .
    Orcs put spikes on everything.. Surprised they dont kill themselves putting their armor on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unholytestament View Post
    Where the hell did that come from?
    I just don't like blood elves, they seem out of place in the Horde. They openly mock the Horde's way of life which they deem primitive and unsofisticated. Also they have burning fel crystals everywhere and (quoted from wowwiki) "This reliance on fel magic causes the eyes of blood elves to glow green with demonic fire" "Blood elves reek of fel power, offending the spiritual senses of night elves and tauren"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsybob View Post
    I just don't like blood elves, they seem out of place in the Horde. They openly mock the Horde's way of life which they deem primitive and unsofisticated. Also they have burning fel crystals everywhere and (quoted from wowwiki) "This reliance on fel magic causes the eyes of blood elves to glow green with demonic fire" "Blood elves reek of fel power, offending the spiritual senses of night elves and tauren"
    With the Sunwell back working properly the Blood Elves should start to return to what they once were. If we are talking about races being out of place in the Horde it would have to be the Forsaken, they can no longer claim that they are fighting for survival as they have set out on a conquest of death.

    The Tauren, Trolls and even the Orcs havn't gotten that out of hand yet.

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