Holy paladins opinion

[Damo]

So im restarting WoW, and im going to be rolling a healer class..

I will be doing pve.

and at the moment im tossing up between a holy paladin and a resto druid

what makes you want to be a holy paladin rather then a resto druid?

Thanks in advance

Damo

[gunner_recall]

Having played both, I'd say resto druid. They can be loads of fun.

Come cata, I'm going to say holy paladin because oh my god they're going to be so freaking cool.

[Sjerusalem]

Paladins have some very good raw healing, they can heal the strogest when focusing on one target. Also nice addion to the melee with glyph. And some very nice support skill that make it feel more like a realy templa whose leading a group and aid tham(for roleplayers ) In cataclyms they style of healing will be more favorized by blizzard. And some realy good new skill will be added, like a small range aoe hot, new reasource which is holy power with that world of glory a free heal, and will get a guardian too which has yet to be tested.
All you need is play right and try to be more versatile than it wont be so boring as most ppl thinks about holy paladin, and if happen to care about pvp in future will be a nice choice too-

And my maain is a resto druid, i just pretty much like al healer class ?)

[Ryme]

I'd stay away from the paladins unless you're secure that you could level a different alt for Cataclysm. They are heavily changing the mechanics of all paladins (although to far lesser extent with prot I guess) and you might not like what your paladin has become.

Right now, I'm building a prot set to possibly replace my holy set if I don't like the direction they're going in.

[bigjenk]

Despite all the qq bliz has done a good job of making all healers relevent this expansion in pretty much every tier, although resto shammies may be complaining since they weren't super mandatory in multitudes like in bc. This will most likely be the same in cata and they are giving holy a lot more tools so that they are able to do more relevent healing than just the tanks although that looks to be the primary focus of them still. With beacon even in its nerfed form in cata we will probably be the the most "mandatory" healer slot in any 2 tank encounter so it will remain pretty easy to find a raid spot.

That being said you will have to be the most flexible class with changes to healing style as im sure stuff will change with us the most out of any class since we are getting changed the most of any healer. Resto druids and shammies will be pretty similar to their current state as will disc most likely with a couple of doohickys for each. Im not familiar with the holy priest changes but i do not believe they are getting quite the overhaul(combo points) that we are. I personally am looking forward to the changes but after an expansion and a half of solid healing on my main i think i am going to give the new ret a try, although my guild will most likely make me go back to being a healer after realizing we can never pick up any really good healers outside of the core 3 we have had all of wrath.

tldr im excited about the changes.

[Loosh]

I'd say holy paladin. They were fun to heal with in WoTLK and seem to be getting even more interesting in Cataclysm.

One thing I liked about Holy paladins in WoTLK was the option to get some really nice mana regen by smacking a boss in melee range. (Seal Wisdom/Judge Wisdom)
In Cataclysm, we will have the Light of Dawn(?), the cone heal. I see it being used best on melee, meaning you will need to be close to the melee.

I just like the idea of a healer that benefits being in melee range, beating on the boss (with 90dps!)

I loved my tree healer until they stripped me of my tree.

[Azyoulike]

Holydin: Sheer raw single & double target power, lots of utility. Poor mobility.
R-Druid: Good single target, excellent raid healing, best mobility. Not much utility.

Holydin is one of the hardest healers to play well, but one of the easiest to play 'adequately'. Resto druid is fun but (in wrath at least) doesn't have very deep gameplay because it has fewer situation spells, fewer weaknesses and (again in wrath at least) equally simple spell-selection.

In cata the differences will be blurred though, and neither spec has really been finalized. To be honest if you're rolling a healer or cata right now it should be a holy-priest.

[Damo]

Thanks all, i appreciate all of your info and opinions.
Im still not 100% sure what i want to roll haha. both seem as if they will be changed abit in cata, so i guess the question would be what play style i prefer?

[AlexGrey]

So im restarting WoW, and im going to be rolling a healer class..

I will be doing pve.

and at the moment im tossing up between a holy paladin and a resto druid

what makes you want to be a holy paladin rather then a resto druid?

Thanks in advance

Damo

Damo, I had been playing a Holy Pally for 4 years, and i.m.h.o. there is nothing more boring than spamming heals on a tank.

Cataclysm is said to change that up a bit, making Paladins a more useful raid healer... but primarily their niche shall remain MT healing in general. You need to ask yourself what kind of healing position would you find most fun? try out both classes till 20 then do some bg healing to see what I mean.

[Zaerix]

I'd say Holy Paladin, but I'm currently too busy fortifying my fallout shelter for the near-inevitable Palacalpyse.

I see one of three outcomes: Paladins are too good and get bitch-slapped into the ground, Paladins are too weak and it takes the entire expansion to get them balanced, or Paladins are nearly balanced right out of the gate with minor tweaks on the way.

Tell me, which do you think is the most likely?

*removes tinfoil hat*

But seriously, currently I'd go with Holy Paladin but they're subject to a ton of changes come Cata and Resto Druids might come out on top once the world stops getting destroyed so much. Paladins will have to make major changes to their methods while Druids will only need to make minor in comparison (Yes I'm awake you're losing a permanent form, but that's not rotation-shattering). It's up to you if you want to attempt relearning how to heal with a Holy Paladin or just tweaking your rotation with a Resto Druid.

[frownface2000]

Out of the two, DEFINITELY Resto Druid.

I played Holy Pala until Ulduar was released, at which point I got completely fed up with it and leveled my druid from 1.
Holy Paladin is the most boring spec to play...ever.
Resto Druid is considerably more fun.

Although, as many people have said, Healing classes are changing a lot in Cataclysm and I would highly Recommend a Priest if you can stand to level it.
Shaman are also looking like they're going to be pretty awesome, so I wouldnt rule them out either (especially since Shaman healing is the model that blizz is trying to apply to the other classes. so shaman wont be quite as radically different in Cata)

[Damo]

[QUOTE=AlexGrey;8704448]Damo, I had been playing a Holy Pally for 4 years, and i.m.h.o. there is nothing more boring than spamming heals on a tank.

Thanks mate.

Thank you everyone, i think i will roll a resto druid, from your personal experiences it seems to be that holy paladins are a little boring.

Thank you all for helping me decide , your all stars!!

Damo

[Foibles]

Probably Druid if you ever thought you would want to tank/ranged dps/melee dps without leveling another character.

[frownface2000]

Probably Druid if you ever thought you would want to tank/ranged dps/melee dps without leveling another character.

Yeah this is probably my favorite aspect of druids. If you ever get bored of resto healing (which even tho you only use a few buttons is still pretty fun in raids, and which will be waaay better in cata cuz ull actually use more heals) then you can spec into Caster DPS, Melee DPS, or Tanking without rerolling.

And the druid spec are pretty fun to PvP in (coming from someone who HATES PvP) even if you dont have gear.

Oh yeah, and 1 more thing - FLIGHT FORM!!! (i absolutely love flight form.)

I would also HIGHLY reccomend you go Herbalism / Alchemy as a druid. It is incredibly useful as you can farm herbs in flight form (which saves so much time) and make flasks/elixirs for any of your possible specs. saves you tons of money & can make you tons if you come to raids with tons of all flasks

[Azyoulike]

Damo, I had been playing a Holy Pally for 4 years, and i.m.h.o. there is nothing more boring than spamming heals on a tank.

You realize that once we got Beacon we barely ever cast heals on the tank right? If you were spamming the tank you were doing it wrong

[ghtybv]

You realize that once we got Beacon we barely ever cast heals on the tank right? If you were spamming the tank you were doing it wrong

Beacon the main TANK and heal the off TANK?

[Elessa]

Beacon the main TANK and heal the off TANK?

Many fights only have one tank taking damage at the same time.

[meroko]

people underestimate paladins ability to raid heal...

Honestly with our burst heals we are actually the best raid healers in the game WHEN geared correctly. Beacon tank, if 2nd tank SS him and keep an eye on him. Heal raid.

I always do the most effective healing on HLK and Heroic Halion. Glyph of Holy Light is more powerful than you think.

Having both a Holy Paladin and Resto Druid, I actually find Holy to be a LOT less boring, Holy is spam spam spam fun, Druid is hots and wait.

[Sasume]

[QUOTE=Damo;8705144]

Damo, I had been playing a Holy Pally for 4 years, and i.m.h.o. there is nothing more boring than spamming heals on a tank.

Thanks mate.

Thank you everyone, i think i will roll a resto druid, from your personal experiences it seems to be that holy paladins are a little boring.

Thank you all for helping me decide , your all stars!!

Damo

I've played both holy paladin and resto druid, and I have to say that of the two Resto druid is far more boring and far less satisfying. Resto raid healing is just rejuv, rejuv, rejuv, rejuv, wildgrowth, rejuv, rejuv, rejuv, rejuv, wildgrowth... You just spam hots on people and use the occasional swiftmend and nourish.

With the holy pally you can see your big heals hitting and making a difference. If you have a beacon on the tank and see one of the raid near death, you can hit the raid member with a holy light, save them and keep the tank up. Plus all the utility spells a holy paladin have are awesome. When used in the right places, they can be raid savers.

I prefer playing my holy pally by a big margin. The changes in cataclysm look awesome too!

[deftones1783]

I love being able to spam holy light for 5 minutes straight while i eat a sandwich..

I hope cata never comes.