I bet you will be respeccing into BM rather sooner than later.
If not I will be eating my own shorts.
I bet you will be respeccing into BM rather sooner than later.
If not I will be eating my own shorts.
Actually more and more people realize that the days of frost mages and bm hunters for levelling are over. I see more and more MM hunters and fire/arcane mages levelling. Maybe they only do this because of the large potential of these spec in end game, but currently the same is true for levelling. It's just more convenient killing mobs fast and straight forward instead of painful slowly but safe.
You sometimes have to rethink. I think currently, with heirloom gear, balance is the best levelling spec after level 20 (because of starfire), while most people still stay with feral, like they always did. With cata many things will change again, especially high health and damage output of 80+ zones will make us have to rethink again. Different specs will be superior to others. And specs that are efficient today are maybe not viable for levelling at all in cataclysm. But what I'm trying to say is, that if you try something different you may be positively surprised.
Last edited by Samin; 2010-09-07 at 01:53 PM.
I agree with Samin. Basically I didnt used any guide for my lvling hunter (36 atm), I knew BM was safer, but after a couple try I quickly figured out that MM will be the shit. Seriously, Aimed Shot / Sting / Arcane shot -> BAM dead. I consider myself a pretty capable player on my tank warrior (full keybind, lots of macro using, no backpedal / keyboard turn, good knowledge of the game and classes), so I just choosed the highest dps threat, and it is TONS of fun as MM. Explode this mob, daze him if you gain aggro, pull another one into your ice trap, then daze it, pull a third one, play with your stances (how is it called for hunters ? xD), disengage, FD, preparation, start again. no down time at all, that's sooooo awesome.
Reaaaaaally funny class to play, i dont understand why people say hunter is faceroll. At lvl 36 i found it ten times more intersting than lvl 80 fury warrior... though it may just be the "refreshing new class" aspect ˆˆ
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Last edited by Samin; 2010-09-07 at 01:58 PM.
Use MM and get a tank pet (ie gorilla)to help keep mobs on them. Also make sure your pet has growl on all the time except for when you run a dungeon. BM would give you less down time but MM gives you bigger crits and you can usually kill people alot faster as MM. Also never stop to drink, just use your aspects to keep things going. Also SV only passes MM for dps once you hit higher levels. I found that SV outweighed other specs once I got a few epics at level 80.
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Beastmastery is divine for low levels, especially once you get deeper into the tree.
You hardly need to drink and you can constantly spamheal/dispel your pet.
Hunters always have had agro problems. And you are better of leveling with them than without them. This way when you hit 80 or 85 you will not be surprised when you take agro from your pet due to your gear. And most importantly you will know what to do in different situations.
As MM you will learn to kite. And Kiting is your MOST important pvp skill as a hunter.
In addition you are best off leveling in the Dungeon system. Aka forget about the soloing quests and stuff.
Also most of the hard quests that BM could solo are now solo able by most of the classes just with some burst. Those that are not are usually part of a long chain end quest. And the current design of those is time consuming and non rewarding at all.
Because all pets are normalized and have an (almost?) equal amount of stamina/armor/damage, a dps pet with a good damaging move on cooldown (=threat) is also a good choice.
Yes of course you never get oom, because you can't do anything besides steady shot. But that is not fast. That is the same problem as with frost mages. The time you save drinking/eating doesn't make up the time you need more to kill the mobs. And without epic gear at 80 your pet just never does that much damage. At least it didn't at 71 for me in BM spec. Also with heirloom gear, I still pulled aggro even as BM (I specced full pet damage and some survivability)
Last edited by Samin; 2010-09-07 at 02:07 PM.
Currently I'd say BM is the way to go, thats what i did anyway. However in cata beta i have levelled to 62 so far as an MM hunter with little difficulty, only really get aggro off your pet if you crit alot and the pet is lower level than you or the mob. The change from mana to focus has made MM more attractive when leveling now.
Wow this guy gave u the best explanation ever. great job btw.
Personally i went BM feels more like hunter to me than MM. Anyway after i got the exotic pet talent it becomes more nice and eve more if u get the spirit beast and leveling with it (always if u like it like me)
BM. it easily pulls the most dps if played right while lvling. i am pushing close to 1.6k at 73 on a single mob. whole MM and SV pushes 1.2k. and your pet always holds agro
Look at the tenacity pet tree; This is where the differences lie....
Growl creates more threat, your pets gets a taunt, Intervene and Thunderstomp. Thats means as BM your pet has Growl, Taunt, Intimidate, Thunderstomp and Intervene, basicaly becomes a mini-warrior. I use a bear to tank, it comes with a cleave ^^ so more AoE for a group, some threat damage and finishes the mini-warrior theme XD
BM has Intimidation, that skill alone makes it my choice for leveling spec. A stun and taunt? Yes please ^^
Last edited by ceelion; 2010-09-07 at 02:47 PM.
1. Fixed threat 2. On a 1 minute cooldown. Rather use MD on cooldown.
You can have the tank abilities of tenecity pets as MM too if you like. Growl and all those moves always generate a fixed static amount of threat
Still if you want to go BM-AoE you should of course use a bear or gorilla because of all those talents. Imo it's still less efficient than MM.
Big minus for BM is that your pet is just stupid. Really. It's brain dead.
Yes I hate pets. I would rather level an archer. But that is mostly because of how wow pets work. They're more of a burden than a help while levelling. Especially as BM when you rely on them entirely.
Fixed Threat you say?
http://www.wowhead.com/spell=53179
Could you please read back the first thing this pet talent says. 1min isn't a long CD to wait for what is essentialy the Bm hunter "OH SH!T" button.
i just hit 75 yesterday been leveling a hunter with heirloom gear
im gonna be a 100% honest...every spec is doable
but effitenly is BM till atleast 70...its boring and retardedly mind numbing...like i HATE BM...
but with MM and Survival you will take a shitload of time kiting since your pet wont hold agrro for dick...MM became useful for me and survival after i could kill a mob before it got to me ...send pet UNLOAD ...KILLSHOT next
STILL....wasnt as efficient as having my pet tank 4 mobs at the same time while i killed them...is more boring but also more efficient
Try em all really see what suits your style!